Hello WIN METHOD fans. This season, as so many youngsters bloom and grow, has had far too many downs. To be contending for the division title with all the injuries our players and team have sustained is remarkable and displays the character of our players and team. We will overcome no matter what is thrown at us.
The 2017 disabled list (DL) has included Gary Sanchez, Greg Bird, Tyler Austin, Starlin Castro, Didi Gregorius, Aaron Hicks, Jacoby Ellsbury, Matt Holiday, CC Sabathia, Adam Warren, Aroldis Chapman, James Kaprielian, Gleyber Torres, Clarke Schmidt, and Dustin Fowler. Several of these players have had their season ended. For a few of these men recovery will take many months and they can only look forward to 2018. The others can still contribute this season. I just want to give a special shout out to Dustin Fowler whose injury may be the most devastating. I have had a special liking for Dustin for a long time now and I will pray for his healing, full recovery, and return to the YANKEES in 2018.
It is truly hard to believe, that with all the injuries, this team is still right in the thick of the pennant race. The character of these WIN METHOD players is their crutch, the attitude they display when challenged with adversity is magnificent.
They play with one goal, for the TEAM to WIN. Everyone contributes, and they win or lose as a team. The goal is always the playoffs and beyond, in the past, now, and in the future. These WIN METHOD men will fight to the end.
With every setback, the door of opportunity opens for another player. Hopefully another youngster will race through the door and seize the chance before they expected.
As WIN METHOD fans, unquestionably the smartest and most knowledgeable baseball fans in the world, we support or team, ownership, management, players, and coaches. We don't whine and cry, and we don't criticize and blame.
We leave that to, yes you guessed it, the stat fraud losers of the world.
There is most of the season left to play and we will persevere, playing the best we can. We will continue to bloom and grow. The draft was wonderful and the WIN METHOD got what it wanted in several draftees. Our number one selection will be something to look forward to. LETS GO YANKEES.
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1 – 200 of 2379 Newer› Newest»Lets hope for the best and the recovery for all the injured. Thanks WIN METHOD.
Stay strong and believe Dustin.
Lets go guys, yes you can and yes you will.
I'm with you WIN METHOD.
Dustin, stay strong mentally and then get strong physically.
Lets go Yankees.
Get well Dustin. Yes you can and will.
Pineda tonight. Hope he screws his on straight tonight.
My best to Fowler and all the other ailing Yankees.
I wonder if any other team in the history of baseball has had these many injuries to so many players in one season.
Fowler is in good spirits. He said he was told surgery was a success and he would be out about 5 to 6 months.
Good news from the horses mouth.
Friday 6/30 8:10pm
Michael Pineda (R)
@ Astros - Lance McCullers Jr. (R)
1. Brett Gardner (L) LF
2. Jacoby Ellsbury (L) CF
3. Aaron Judge (R) DH
4. Didi Gregorius (L) SS
5. Chase Headley (S) 3B
6. Austin Romine (R) C
7. Ronald Torreyes (R) 2B
8. Tyler Wade (L) RF
9. Chris Carter (R) 1B
Carter at 1B. That is a downer, but hopes he produces when it counts tonight.
What a feather in the cap it would be for WIN METHOD and the Yankees if the team makes the playoffs this season.
Andujar back on Yankee 25 man roster and is in Houston.
The Yankees trail 1-0 after two innings of play.
Yanks down 3-1 after 5.
Yankees score five two out runs in 6th and four two out runs in 7th on Gardner grand slam to take 10-3 lead over Astros. Pineda went six acceptable innings. Mitchell in for a 1,2, 3 7th. 10-3 Yanks after 7.
10-3 Yankees thru 7.
Mitchell closes out win with solid three innings. Yanks win 13-4.
Final...Yanks win big 13-4.
Big win tonite against the team with the best record in baseball for the first half of this season so far.
Can only hope last night was not a one game wonder, but that it was the start of a good run of winning baseball.
Monty tonight. At least we are not playing from behind this series. Lets win it.
Nice blog post WIN METHOD. You sure have built a juggernaut of a farm system. Hope everything blooms and grows and comes to fruition.
Frazier also has been called up from AAA Scranton.
The Yankees can't keep everyone on the 25 man roster. Eventually Castro, Holiday, etc will get back.
Todd, true, but all our talent gives management options plus it fosters competition for playing time, thus hopefully driving performance. Performance when it counts is needed before individual stats is the key. Performance when it counts creates wins.
Pitchers usually take more time yo bloom and grow. Montgomery has reached the top level, bot he is still learning and developing. So far so good. Earn a win tonight Monty.
Saturday 7/1 7:15pm
Jordan Montgomery (L)
@ Astros - Francis Martes (R)
1. Brett Gardner (L) LF
2. Jacoby Ellsbury (L) CF
3. Gary Sanchez (R) DH
4. Didi Gregorius (L) SS
5. Chase Headley (S) 3B
6. Ronald Torreyes (R) 2B
7. Austin Romine (R) C
8. Chris Carter (R) 1B
9. Clint Frazier (R) RF
Another first timer for Yankees today. In right field Clint Frazier as Judge gets day off.
I'd almost rather see Judge at 1b even thou he has never played there. Still, he does need day off once in a while.
Everyone gets their chance to contribute. That is what team is about. The stat frauds have no idea about that.
0-0 after 2.
0-0 after 4.
Yanks fall behind 2-0 after 5.
Yanks score five times in top of sixth, four on Gregorius grand slam for 5-2 lead.
Yanks up 5-3 after 6.
Frazier leads off 7th with his MLB HR. WIN METHOD must be in seventh heaven.
After Chad Green pitches the 6th and 7th scoreless innings. In comes Betances for the 8th and stinks beyond belief. Chapman now in with men on 1st and 3rd and 2 outs. Betances has already allowed 2 runs to cut the Yankee lead to 6-5 and both runners are his responsibility.
Chapman gives up a double and Yanks down 7-6. Betances and Chapman have killed the Yankees so far this season. The a K for 3rd out after the damage done.
Yankees go down 1.2.3 by Houston closer. Another dreadful one run heartbreaking loss.
Final, devastating loss 7-6.
It is hard to believe that Betances and Chapman can choke so often. Betances still can't hold a runner and a runner in a wheel chair can steal a base every time on him.
I was hoping the losing this way was over. Losing late inning games because of the bullpen is killing us.
Ten one run losses in June. Take two meaningless runs from several of our blowout wins and give them to just five of those ten losses and look where we would be in the standings. Meaningless runs defines the meaningless stat frauds. Wins are what counts, not how many runs you win by or your meaningless run differential. Come on you clueless stat frauds and debate here where you won't get banned instead of banning posters who know baseball at your clueless feckless forums.
Louie Louie starts today to try to win a series we should have already won.
Steve......the stat frauds won't debate here because their lies and deceptions won't pass the smell test. Their combined ignorance is second to very little.
Sunday 7/2 2:10pm
Luis Severino (R)
@ Astros - Mike Fiers (R)
1. Brett Gardner (L) DH
2. Aaron Judge (R) RF
3. Gary Sanchez (R) C
4. Didi Gregorius (L) SS
5. Jacoby Ellsbury (L) CF
6. Chase Headley (S) 3B
7. Chris Carter (R) 1B
8. Tyler Wade (L) 2B
9. Clint Frazier (R) LF
Judge, Sanchez, Wade, Frazier all starting. But why is Carter?
Mark my words. The worm will turn and this team will make a major impact on the AL East division.
Hey guys, I don't bother going to the stat fraud forums anymore. Most have failed or failing anyways. Those dolts are brain dead fools.
Yankees down 5-0 thru 5. Astro starter threw 105 in 4 innings and we did not score.
Final. Loss 8-1.
I see the stat frauds are overjoyed with Carter delivering a big ninth inning RBI single. The hit was really big in their eyes because it prevented the Yankees from being shutout for the first time this season.
Have we hit bottom yet? We do need to hit bottom before we can rise back to the top.
We have so many roster changes, lineup changes, injuries, etc, there has been no cohesion among the players. Maybe all this will work its way out.
Just about the half way mark for the 2017 season. Three consecutive 10 games losing stretches. Now in second place in division. Need to play better and more consistent better baseball in the second half of the season. The injuries have been devastating.
10. 6-4
20. 7-3 = 13-7
30. 8-2 = 21-9
40. 3-7 = 24-16
50. 6-4 = 30-20
60. 7-3 = 37-23
70. 2-8 = 39-31
80. 4-6 = 43-37
We do need to put wins together for most of our coming 10 game periods.
Happy Independence Day America and WIN METHOD Yankee fans.
Lets celebrate the 4th with a sweep.
Tanaka starts tonight's game.
When the Yankees come together as a team, watch out. The sooner the better. Would love to see it this season.
Come on guys. Yes we can and yes we will.
Monday 7/3 7:05pm
Masahiro Tanaka (R)
vs. Blue Jays - Marcus Stroman (R)
1. Brett Gardner (L) CF
2. Aaron Judge (R) RF
3. Gary Sanchez (R) C
4. Didi Gregorius (L) SS
5. Chase Headley (S) 3B
6. Jacoby Ellsbury (L) DH
7. Ronald Torreyes (R) 2B
8. Chris Carter (R) 1B
9. Clint Frazier (R) LF
Yes WIN METHOD fans, Carter is in the lineup yet again. I know we let the manager manage and accept he knows more than any of us. Buttttttttttttttttttttttt!!
Guy, there has to be a reason we are not factoring into Girardi's reasoning.
We just have to start winning games. That usually stops bad thoughts dead.
Time for a win, the first of many.
Yanks get on board first with two first inning runs.
Yanks lead 2-0 after four, but have had several opportunities and failed, keeping Jays in game.
Yankees up 2-1 mid 7th as Sanchez give Toronto run on throwing error. Now it will be up to the bullpen.
Yanks 2-1 thru 7. Betances in for the 8th.
Betances gets through the eighth. Would be nice to get a couple of extra runs.
Another nail biter.
Headley bases loaded double breaks game open in 8th as Yanks score 4 runs for a 6-1 lead. Carter ends another inning in this game with a ground ball double play.
Chapman working hard to blow this game also. Score now 6-3. Just got a K for 2nd out, one man on.
Chapman gets third out, saved by Headley diving catch on very hard hit line drive. Yanks win 6-3.
Final, a 6-3 win. thank god for those runs in the 8th or Chapman would have blown another game.
Every game is a struggle, but at least this one was a win.
Now to add a win tomorrow.
CC is off the DL today and starts today's Independence Day game. He was sharp as a tack and winning when he got injured. Hope he comes back today the same.
Happy 4th everyone. God bless America.
Happy 4th. Lets win.
The Yankees last night only had to bat in 8 innings making 24 outs and Chris Carter was responsible for 6 of those outs. One batter of nine, 1/9th, responsible for 1/4 of the outs.
Carter likely will be on bench today..
Tuesday 7/4 1:05pm
CC Sabathia (L)
vs. Blue Jays - J.A. Happ (L)
1. Brett Gardner (L) LF
2. Aaron Judge (R) DH
3. Gary Sanchez (R) C
4. Didi Gregorius (L) SS
5. Chase Headley (S) 3B
6. Jacoby Ellsbury (L) CF
7. Chris Carter (R) 1B
8. Ronald Torreyes (R) 2B
9. Clint Frazier (R) RF
Carter still playing. Surprised he isn't batting cleanup. He could be more devastating there.
Carter is devastating no matter where he bats in the lineup, sadly most of the time it is devastating to his team.
Happy July 4th Yankee fans.
0-0 after 4.
After getting 8 straight outs to start the game, CC can't get the last out in the 3rd and gives up 4 runs. Yanks trail 4-0 after 3.
Yanks down 4-1 after 6.
Final 4-1 loss. Yanks go down without a whimper.
Maybe, just maybe if Chris Carter who imitates afraud were chucked this team could put a real player in the lineup and win a little more.
It looks like we are marching in place.
Still half the season to go. No reason to give up yet. Things change very quickly.
A win tomorrow would give us our first series in a month.
Pineda today's starter.
You have to win one series before you can win two in a row. Today can be a first step.
Wednesday 7/5 1:05pm
Michael Pineda (R)
vs. Blue Jays - Marco Estrada (R)
1. Brett Gardner (L) LF
2. Aaron Judge (R) RF
3. Gary Sanchez (R) DH
4. Didi Gregorius (L) SS
5. Chase Headley (S) 3B
6. Jacoby Ellsbury (L) CF
7. Ji-Man Choi (L) 1B
8. Austin Romine (R) C
9. Tyler Wade (L) 2B
Out with the broken fan and in with a working air conditioner. A left handed lineup for the first time this season.
Yankees down 1-0 after one.
Yanks down 1-0 after 2.
Pineda getting pummeled and being replace down 5-0 in the 4th with no outs.
Choi brings joy with 2 run HR in 5th to cut Toronto lead to 5-4.
LOL...out with the broken fan.
Sanchez with bases loaded and one out in 5th, fails when it counts and pops up. Didi up with bags full and 2 out. Didi produces when it counts with a 2 run double and a 6-5 Yankee lead.
6-5 Yankees thru five after trailing 5-0.
Yanks up 6-5 after 6.
Betances in for the 8th and has to be relieved after 1 K and 4 W's giving up the lead and leaving bases full with one out. Betances is becoming another Carter. Totally useless.
Warren in with bases loaded and one out gets K for 2nd out. Big WHEN it counts clutch pitching. Yanks only down one coming to bat in 8th.
Yanks down 7-6 after 8.
If Yanks come back in 9th they will have to do it against a real closer in the Jays Osuna.
Final...another one run loss 7-6.
An interesting fact comparing Jays reliever Osuna and pathetic Betances. Osuna in over 30+ games the entire season has only walked 3 batters. Pathetic Betances walked 4 in 5 batters to blow today's game for his team. He has also walked 1 of every 3 batters he has face for the entire season. PATHETIC.
Well we lost another series.
What a nightmare we are going through.
Would like to thank the posters here for their respectful posts during this Yankee skid. Only one post was deleted in the past several weeks and it was by a stat fraud who used many expletives attacking the WIN METHOD and the posters here.
bigbadwolf...I bet it hasn't been easy for some. It is uncanny what his happening for the past month. Hope it turns out to be a movie script where everything turns out for the good at the end.
One small step, if the Yankees never ever in out life time allow Chris Carter to be put on the MLB roster.
Good news, Betances can't blow another game today.
Possible Holiday back tomorrow.
One more chance to take a series before the all star break. Monty, Tanka, and Louie Louie are the listed starters.
Sweep the first place Brewers.
Yes we can.
I can almost guarantee if the Yankees sweep this series with the Brewers they will surely win the AL East this year.
SWWWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
Yes, stay positive people. Yes we can.
Hope Monty and the bats get us off on the right foot tonight.
Friday 7/7 7:05pm
Jordan Montgomery (L)
vs. Brewers - Junior Guerra (R)
1. Brett Gardner (L) CF
2. Chase Headley (S) 3B
3. Aaron Judge (R) RF
4. Gary Sanchez (R) DH
5. Didi Gregorius (L) SS
6. Clint Frazier (R) LF
7. Ji-Man Choi (L) 1B
8. Austin Romine (R) C
9. Tyler Wade (L) 2B
Girardi did a little tinkering with Judge and Sanchez at 3 and 4 holes.
Time to rise and shine guys. Step up.
We are do to put things together, and when that happens look out at the top.
Yanks score first and lead 1-0 thru two.
Choi produces when it counts with 2 run HR in fourth to give Yankees 3-2 lead and still batting and now in a rain delay.
Back in action. 3-2 Yanks after 4.
4-4 after 6.
Yankee bullpen in 7th, 3 walks, grand slam, double, rbi single, walk, putting Yanks down 9-4.
The bullpen has been sucking eggs for a month now.
Yankees down 9-4 after 8 and I ain't staying for the 9th. I am getting frustrated.
After last nights debacle Louie Louie starts today to try to even this series.
Saturday 7/8 1:05pm
Luis Severino (R)
vs. Brewers - Brent Suter (L)
1. Brett Gardner (L) DH
2. Aaron Judge (R) RF
3. Gary Sanchez (R) C
4. Didi Gregorius (L) SS
5. Chase Headley (S) 3B
6. Jacoby Ellsbury (L) CF
7. Clint Frazier (R) LF
8. Austin Romine (R) 1B
9. Ronald Torreyes (R) 2B
Still no Holiday, probably keep him out until after the break, along with Castro and Hicks. Frazier, to me, gives the impression he is flailing at the plate, but he is young yet.
Louie Louie gives up first inning 3 run HR. Yanks down 3-0 after first.
Yankees down 3-0 thru four and are hitless.
Yanks get 2 in 7th, trail 3-2 after 7 and on track for another 1 run loss.
Yanks rally in 9th for 3 runs on a 3 run walk off home run by rookie Clint Frazier.
Final a walk off HR for a 5-3 win.
Maybe maybe, just maybe the stinking worm is turning.
Also, Betances and Chapman pitched scoreless 8th and 9th innings.
Just have to win tomorrow and go from there as the injured return after the All Star game.
First series after the break is in Boston for four games. This could be "really huge" series and I hope it turns our way.
I remember several years ago the Yanks going into Boston and trouncing the sux mercilessly taking four games. Redux?
Lets finally win a series tomorrow.
Tanaka this afternoon to try to win a series in a month.
Hopefully Frazier walk off puts a charge into this team. Yes we can.
I just hope we see more and more of the youngsters gaining confidence and having productive at bats creating wins.
Louie Louie had one pitch cost him and the Yankees three runs and then he shut down the Brewers for the next six innings. Betances and Chapman pitched scoreless innings keeping the Yankee chances viable. The bats awoke in the last three innings led by rookie Clint Fraziers triple and home run for four of the Yankee five RBIs and making for the win. Teams win guys with players producing at key times to create those wins. Baseball is all about WINS.
Only in the small minds of some stat frauds the Yankees are rebuilding. No frauds, we are playing to win it all this year and yes we can.
Lets go Yankees.
Sunday 7/9 1:05pm
Masahiro Tanaka (R)
vs. Brewers - Jimmy Nelson (R)
1. Brett Gardner (L) LF
2. Aaron Judge (R) RF
3. Didi Gregorius (L) SS
4. Gary Sanchez (R) C
5. Jacoby Ellsbury (L) CF
6. Chase Headley (S) 3B
7. Clint Frazier (R) DH
8. Ji-Man Choi (L) 1B
9. Tyler Wade (L) 2B
Six left handed bats today.
Tanaka like Louie Louie did yesterday puts Yankees in 3-0 hole in first inning giving up a 3 run HR.
Yankees down 4-0 after 2.
Frazier 2 run HR cuts Brewer lead to 4-3 after 4.
Tanaka immediately gives up run in 5th and is saved further disaster by Warren getting final 2 outs of inning with 2 men on. Yanks down 5-3 mid 5th.
The official language of Saint Barthélemy is French.
Yanks still down 5-3 after 8....Had a man on second with no outs twice this game and never scored them. Too many times when you play for the big inning you get burnt. Scoring one run at a time can lead to a bigger inning or keep you in the game. One run is usually better than 0 runs.
Final 5-3 loss and Yanks go 1 for 16 with runners in scoring position. The ultimate fail when it matters most. A sure way to make for losses.
Another series lost. Better be ready for next weekend.
This has really been a sad stretch of games.
I fully expect a rousing run after the All Star game.
I think Judge swings and misses at far too many pitches.
Lori, I agree. I would he could do better if he didn't swing so hard and just hit the outside pitches to right. When the pitchers come in on him, then pull the ball. It doesn't make any difference how hard you hit the ball nor how many home runs you hit. It is far more important to any and all players to be able to produce the most often when it matters most to the team and win games. Yes, I know the stat frauds are unable and or unwilling to understand this concept.
Mid season break. The Yankees have four days to pull their act together if they want to win their division and or make the playoffs this season.
Tonight is the farce called the HR Derby. The stat frauds will all be agog measuring how far, velocity, launch angle, how many balls are hit for home runs in a meaningless contest. None of which tells how much any of the participants help their team to win games by producing when it counts.
All things considered we're really not all that bad off. Only two games behind Bos in the loss column for 1st. Considering all of our injuries which have decimated the lineup, and some of our horrible pitching, we are not in a bad position at all.
If what we've just seen is the Yankees without several key players, then I think we have a bright immediate future when we include Hicks, Castro and Holiday. Those are three very important bats.
And now that Choi is an instant replacement for Carter, I like our chances.
Yes guys and gals, it is only wins that determine the best. Anything else is camouflage and or hype.
What the all star break means to me...a four day sabbatical from baseball.
Thinking about this weekend series with the sux. Would love to win at least three of the four games.
Lets say Holiday, Hicks, and Castro are back.
My lineup, against right handed pitcher
Gardner or Elsbury cf
Hicks lf
Judge rf
Holiday dh
Choi 1b
Castro 2b
Didi ss
Sanchez c
Headley 3b
My lineup, against left handed pitcher
Hicks cf
Frazier lf
Judge rf
Holiday dh
Castro 2b
Sanchez c
Didi ss
Headley 1b
Torreyes 3b
AAA.....You forgot a bay against the righty unless we are only playing with 8.
Jimmy, look again. And I am RLA.
For information purposes.....Aaron Judge dominated and won the Home Run Derby tonight in Miami.
Judge was awesome.
RLA, Your lineups are feasible. It still ALWAYS comes down to each individual producing when it matters.
When it counts, not how much nor how many. The only how many that matters is wins.
With three weeks left to go until the trading deadline, we will see if the Yankees make any deals. They have so many top prospects in the minors at all levels, if they wish to deal any I hope they did their homework on who they will positively hold on to and who they may be willing to let go.
The superior American League defeated the inferior national league again last night in the 2017 All Star game 2-1 in ten innings.
I don't think the Yankees will sign Harper. The dollars that would have to be wasted on Harper who has shown he is unable to lead his team to great success would set a bad precedent in then having to sign the bloom and grow youngsters developing in the system.
I hope the Yankees don't sign Harper. We have less expensive home grown winners blooming and growing.
There is no reason to pay anyone the money some of these individual stat guys are getting unless they take you to the playoffs and well beyond every year.
This is the last day fans, Yankee baseball and the run to the finish line is back tomorrow.
Time to produce when it counts and win games.
Lets take the bull by the horns and win our division. Yes we can.
The Yankees have traded lefty reliever Tyler Wade to the Milwaukee Brewers for AAA first baseman Garret Cooper. Cooper is a power bat that is hitting for average and power in AAA.
Yankees open four game series in Boston tonight. Sunday is a day night double header. Makeup of a rain out in April.
Monty listed to start tonight's game one.
A left hander at Fenway for us.
Pineda season done and also next season. Needs Tommy John surgery. That explains much. Greg Birds issue found, has been diagnosed with os trigonum inflammation. Possible surgery likely. That explains his problem. The os trigonum is an extra needless bone behind the ankle.
Yankee weekend rotation Monty, Louie Louie, Mitchell, Tanaka.
Tough luck for Pineda and the Yankees. Just hope the Yankees do not go after the dog Quintana. Pineda with a bad arm was 8-4 this season while the dog Quintana is 4-8 and has been a sub .500 pitcher for his career while being lauded by the stat frauds.
If the Yanks don't make the playoffs this season I can't be down after all the injuries this team has had. Pineda out does give a rookie or two and opportunity.
If Girardi can manage this team into the playoffs this season, it would be a giant feather in his cap and possibly rank him as the best manager in baseball.
By chance will Chance Adams get a shot? or maybe someone else that isn't hurt?
Friday 7/14 7:10pm
Jordan Montgomery (L)
@ Red Sox - Drew Pomeranz (L)
1. Brett Gardner (L) LF
2. Gary Sanchez (R) C
3. Aaron Judge (R) RF
4. Matt Holliday (R) DH
5. Didi Gregorius (L) SS
6. Garrett Cooper (R) 1B
7. Jacoby Ellsbury (L) CF
8. Chase Headley (S) 3B
9. Ronald Torreyes (R) 2B
Holiday back, newbie Cooper starting at 1b.
Oh well, we lose our best pitcher, 4 games over .500 at 8-4 and the team as a whole is only 4 games over .500 at 45-41. Do we throw in the towel, heck no, we leave that to the stat frauds.
The Yankee season reminded me of this old Nat King Cole song called SMILE.
Smile tho' your heart is aching
Smile even tho' it's breaking
When there are clouds in the sky
You'll get by
If you smile
Thro' your fear and sorrow
Smile and maybe tomorrow
You'll see the sun come shin-ing thro' for you
Light up your face with gladness
Hide ev-'ry trace of sadness
Altho' a tear may be ever so near
That's the time
You must keep on trying
Smile, what's the use of crying
You'll find that life is still worth-while
If you just smile
Thanks sid, I needed that.
0-0 after 2.
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