The conclusion to the regular 162 game 2018 season is coming fast. Ten teams will make the playoffs and the other twenty teams will conclude their season, go home, and watch the ten best teams in Major League Baseball play in the playoffs and try to win their way to the World Series.
The ten teams that reach the playoffs will do so by achieving WINS, with each division winner making the playoffs and then the next two teams in each league who have the most WINS but who did not win any division going to the playoffs. Five teams in each league. The three division winners and the next two teams with the most wins in the league as wild cards.
With just about fifty games to be played in the regular season it appears the YANKEES will not win their division and will have to settle for a wild card position as they did last season. Last season the YANKEES rode their playoff spot to within one game (one more WIN) of reaching the World Series.
Nothing but wins and winning determines the best players and teams, no other stat of any kind for hitters or pitchers make any difference. Who each team plays in the playoffs are only determined by WINS. And advancing each round are only determined by WINS. Nothing else matters, but WINS.
I would like to mention my observations on this 2018 YANKEE team so far this season. I will not go into injuries because every team has injuries to varying degrees and I find that injuries are part of the game, a part that every team must deal with and overcome to be the best. The aspect I will talk about is the very distinct lack of hustle, urgency, and even desire I have seen from some players and management. Jogging down to first base on grounders, not running hard on fly balls and or popups is unacceptable at anytime within the confines of other runners on base. Hitting a fly ball that you think is going over the fence and would be a home run and jogging down the line only to watch the ball bounce between fielders or off the wall and instead of maybe getting a triple settling for a double. Any time these events occur and are not addressed by the manager and they continue time and time again a distinct lack of leadership and control is evident. This attitude and their acceptance must be corrected immediately by all involved. I have seen and heard from many fans who see what is happening and have voiced their dismay in this blog over and over. I have been around baseball for sixty years and have never seen this from a YANKEE team. WIN METHOD fans deserve better as all YANKEE fans should.
LETS GO YANKEES !!!
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 400 of 914 Newer› Newest»Guys, if you try to use common sense with the stat frauds, it will fall on deaf ears, they do not have common sense. They believe you can look at the starting pitchers for any game and the one with the lower ERA will win. If that was the case the teams don't need to play any games. Everyone on a team contributes to wins and losses. The more wins the better, the more losses the worse. There was a game last night where the winning team was out hit 10 to 5 but won. The win was the desired result not the hit total of the any other stat.
By gosh, there seems like there is an awful lot of winning going on with the teams who are going to make the playoffs.
Thursday 8/16 1:05pm
Masahiro Tanaka (R)
vs. Rays - Blake Snell (L)
1. Aaron Hicks (S) CF
2. Giancarlo Stanton (R) DH
3. Miguel Andujar (R) 3B
4. Didi Gregorius (L) SS
5. Gleyber Torres (R) 2B
6. Neil Walker (S) RF
7. Greg Bird (L) 1B
8. Kyle Higashioka (R) C
9. Shane Robinson (R) LF
Bird at 1B against a lefty. Gardner out. Torres back at 2B.
Evan Donahue, bingo. The stat frauds always have their scapegoat in blaming their failed pitchers teammates. WIN METHOD credit all players on a team for winning or losing.
I like football.
Hi all!
Transgender student here who was just referred to this blog.
Some pretty interesting stuff on here!
Amanda, welcome. This is the number one baseball site in the world.
Garret, welcome. Do you follow college or professional football? You won't find much if any talk about football here at WIN METHOD. We are the number one baseball blog in the world.
Should be a tough game today trying to beat a big time young winning pitcher like Snell. Just need to produce when it counts a time or two.
We need Torres to get his act together and help this team like earlier in the season. Success is fleeting, especially when you let it go to your head and overwhelm you.
YankeeMike, your response was unnecessarily snarky and belligerent. As a general rule when you are advocating for an ideology or perspective, the way to make your case and potentially win people over is not by calling them names and being condescending. Not being fully informed or bought in yet on the method does not make someone a stat fraud or whatever you called me. I was genuinely curious and asking a question based on what I knew thus far, your cult-like response did nothing to help me see your perspective. The over the top response to someone who god-forbid hasn't fully embraced your perspective (even though he is willing to listen and engage in discussion) yet is a pretty extreme form of intolerance. At no point did I say the method was stupid, had no merit, or that those that buy in to it are "Meth-heads" or anything. That said, when you were done insulting me you took the time to point out things I misstated or misrepresented, so for that I thank you.
All that said I still think the premise of my question is valid as I am truly trying to better understand. Mike Trout would not rate highly because his teams have rarely been successful, Stanton as well for that matter. But would anyone argue they are not incredibly talented and could help a team win? It isn't Trout's fault that he was surrounded by poor teams. Put him on a decent team and maybe he gets them over the top. As I understand it based on your explanation of scoring, he wouldn't rate high.
As for Arod, no argument that he is self serving. But in his tenure with the Yankees his team won a ton of games, playoff series and a world championship so he would have acquired a reasonably high rating, would he not? Given your comments about him playing for himself and being a cancer, are you suggesting that there is a "personality" (for lack of a better word) score that is applied as well? I wouldn't think so but I don't claim to know everything at all about the method.
Thanks and I wish you well in your endeavors today.
I just noticed Sonny Gray isn't in the rotation. WHY IS THIS!?!
He has the second most wins on the team!!
Psst guys,
Today’s game is a good example of why giving up runs is usually bad.
johnsondc, it looks like we are being invaded. I do think it is very likely one person who has been embarrassed and made a fool of many times.
I will not respond to them.
Tanaka is getting hit hard so far.
Yanks fail when it counts in first and third innings today so far. Trail 2-0 after 3.
Sal
Are you saying the second inning didn’t count?
Allen's Wolfpack, If you read every WIN METHOD post you should be able to fully understand the WIN METHOD. My nine year old son has read it all and fully understands the difference between winning and losing. With character, desire, and fortitude (really wanting something) and how they spur players to be the best. Win as a team not as an individual.
Babe, are you as stupid as your posts?
Yankees with just three hits trail 2-0 after six.
Britton in for the 7th. Trying to straighten him out.
Sal
I don’t know, do you base intelligence on educational degrees and career success or based on believing that’s stats don’t matter in baseball?
Babe, In your case it is just as I posted, you are as stupid as your posts. So stupid you couldn't even understand my very easy to understand post.
Yanks score in eight on Romine single and Stanton RBI double. Trail 3-1 after 8.
Last chance, bottom of 9th down 3-1.
Walk, single, walk loads the bases with no outs. Bird foul pop out to 3rd on first pitch. Big fail. Gardner K's for 2nd out. Another big fail. Romine K's. Game over.
Final Yankees lose 3-1. Went 3 for 28 in this series when it counted and therefor lost the series 2 games to 1.
Sal
From my experience people that need to go around and call others stupid have serious personal issues.
Let me know if you need some one to talk to.
Next up the Blue Jays for a three game weekend series. Lynn, Louie Louie, and Happ.
Babe, you do it over and over. Another stupid post.
Nathan Riley, thanks for the 9 year old comment. For a group of passionate, seemingly intelligent baseball fans why is the FIRST reaction to anyone who asks a question or suggests that the method isn't biblical scripture to belittle that person? If you believe in something and encourage people to share your views, the way to do it is to discuss it without trying to degrade them. That was the approach of some pretty not nice people over the course of history.
To respond to the content of your response, I too understand what wins and losses are and I also fully understand that a team with the most wins is better than a team of 300 hitters with a bunch of losses etc. What I have asked twice, as I am looking to better understand, is how the method works in terms of predicting the future value/contribution of players and how you would use this to select players to target for your team. Looking back of course I understand, Player A has been part of a winner consistently, points for him. If a player has great stats AND has been a winner, than that is the best case scenario. But does this suggest that if you had the chance to add Mike Trout over a player with "decent" stats but had been on multiple winners that you would choose that other player? My understanding is that the Yankees employ this method in making decisions. If so, why trade for Stanton if not for his incredible stats? He played on a loser consistently. I submit that they looked at his ability and his stats and felt than on a better team he could be a real difference make and maybe help win a championship.
Why does it have to be binary? Can't both stats and wins be part of an evaluation? I am not saying wins isn't important and I completely buy in to the notion of "good clubhouse" guys and "winning mentality", but by the same token you can't tell me Mike Trout, Stanton, Chris Sale etc aren't better that average stat players who have been on winning teams.
Look forward to a positive discussion.
Allen's Wolfpack, Save your oratories. With over 423 million views the readers and intelligent posters here know what they are getting and it appears they love it and believe in it. Anyone coming here and trying to tell the intelligent posters how they should think or what they should believe is wasting their time. The people who have come here and stayed have done it on their own. They like and they believe. You can try to rationalize and equivocate all you want. You will either believe, stay, and support or you won't. The choice is yours. I suggest you stop trying to badger intelligent posters with questions all have answered for themselves. We don't sell anything but that wins and winning are all that count in baseball. Why don't you ask guys like Trout why they keep playing where they do. I am sure they all have reasons. This was you positive feedback.
Appreciate the response, maybe I am not being clear. I am asking jitomate question of those that know the method best. How is this method used in predicting the future performance and value of players, for example When selecting who to add to your team? I'm not disputing the value of wins, the method, or the people who support it. I'm asking for someone who knows better to extrapolate on this method on how could use in a predictive fashion. Sorry if that was unclear.
Johnsondc
You make this sound like a cult.
Also your entire response is passive aggressive and dismissive garbage.
DUH! WIN METHOD makes selections of players during interviewees he is profiling. He is best sports profiler in existence as proven by Yankee success for the past two and a half decades.
Babe, whine, cry, and snivel some place else. Your tired weak refrain is boring.
Which goes to my initial question. Is there a personality aspect of this method that goes into selection? How is that accounted for and coupled with the wins and making an evaluation? For example Stanton has been on a terrible team for a long time but put up great stats, and he chose to sign a long-term extension with that poor team. By the examples people have given me that would add negatives to his scoring. So I just want to understand so I can speak to it too, how does the win method allow for making predictions of future performance and selecting playerd?
Allen's Wolfpack, I would think that when someone has a gold mine as WIN METHOD has he wouldn't spread any details to anyone. That is very different than the stat frauds with their fake formulas they put out for the world to see for nothing. And nothing is what they are worth.
Quite possibly. But this side have has tons of other people that vehement Lee believe in the system, are you telling me that no one understands how the predicted aspect works? If that's the case how do we know it's good at predicting? Again not disparaging the method, and I get how using wins as a basis for evaluation makes a ton of sense, I'm just interested in want to understand more. From the explanations I've gotten, it would make no sense to trade for Stanton as an example. But again I fully acknowledge that I don't have the full picture, I'm just very interested.
Allen's Wolfpack, I thought Steve was pretty clear. WIN METHOD talks to players, he profiles them. I can't profile in any way shape or form. Law enforcement uses them as do airlines, and major companies. I would think others that I have no idea about do also.
Fair enough, I'm merely asking how that is the only Factor if we are suggesting that stats are completely ignored. Again I point to the acquisition of Stanton. He played for a perennial losing team, I have no doubt that he has a winning attitude and played well in the interview process, but I am asking are we really to understand that his monster stats were ignored? If the right mentality and being on previous winners was the only driver, they could have gotten a winning type player for 250 million dollars less. That's why I asked why is binary? It would seem to me that applying the win lens to existing stats, you could gain an advantage over other evaluators. I know this comparison will make people cringe, but think about it looking at on base percentage gaining popularity against traditional stats like batting average and RBI. For. Of time those that use that extra layer of analysis had a jump on their competitors. All I'm asking is if that's the better way to think about it and how it can be applied.
Allen's Wolfpack...It would seem people could use and combination of a variety of stats or other factors they wish. I have to take it for granted every team has their values and way of doing things. Teams just can't go out an acquire anyone they wish. A player has to be made available. Free agency is nice but can be a very expensive way way to go. Most of the highest paid players are not worth what they are getting paid in my opinion. I don't think anyone completely ignores stats. It's the fake stats built on formulas that should be ignored. If a team wants a power bat you look for HR hitters. If you want a get an on base bat you look at OBP. I think the biggest obstacle in finding the right player for a team is how he will transition to your team. If you are a contending team, performance under pressure a player may have never player under is a major factor. Moving to a new city/environment. To deep for me, I leave it to the pros. Each teams success can be a solid definer of how good their system is working. It never fails, you win enough you are among the best.
Hope we can take all three games this weekend. It looks like Judge is going to out at least another two weeks.
Steve
“I don’t think any one completely ignores stats”
And yet people were here were telling me they’d pick a pitching staff that allows 1000 runs in 1000 innings over one that allowed 300 runs in 1000 innings with a straight face. How interesting...
You guys are all over the place here.
Babe, as a stat fraud you do what stat frauds do. You have left out the most important piece and the BIGGEST FACT from your statement above. You left out that the 1000 run pitchers WON games at a .100% higher rate than the 300 run pitchers. Lying and misleading fans is the trademark of the fakes in baseball and define you. Baseball games are played to win. It does not matter how many of anything else are attained or not attained along that path. It is wins that determine the best.
You have just lost the last 2% of credibility you may have had left. How interesting, more false information from the stat frauds.
Steve,
Thanks for taking the time to elaborate, and thanks for doing so without insulting me. New ideas always generate questions and they are nothing to be defensive about. As an "outsider" I would only to suggest to folks that instead of immediately calling people who question the method stupid or "stat frauds", perhaps first take the time to offer your perspective in a reasonable discussion. That is after all, the very nature of forums.
What you said sort of falls in line with what I was asking. Stats would absolutely have to be part of the decision making/evaluation process and wouldn't be "ignored", but it is perfectly reasonable to suggest that the method adds an additional layer of analysis or evaluation that factors in wins (and whatever other criteria makes up the method) that could find value where others miss it. I think the concept those not familiar with the method struggle with is the idea of using wins as the only element of the evaluation, rather than in complement to existing stats (HR, OBP etc).
Is that a fair characterization?
Yankeeforever, very nice response to Boob, I mean Babe. Babe was caught lying and misleading.
Steve, I believe your post I will repeat by quoting below explains to the world and each and every intelligent baseball the difference between the value of the WIN METHOD and the meaninglessness and uselessness of the stat fraud formulas....
"""""Steve said...
Allen's Wolfpack, I would think that when someone has a gold mine as WIN METHOD has he wouldn't spread any details to anyone. That is very different than the stat frauds with their fake formulas they put out for the world to see for nothing. And nothing is what they are worth.
August 16, 2018 at 6:59 PM""""""
The Yankees need to sweep this series to keep moving forward.
Yankeeforever
I thought I had made the example perfectly clear earlier that I didn’t have to repeat everything but I forgot that you and the other posters are slow.
Regardless, as the prior year winning percentages alone have no value in future projections, it’s still an awful way of rating the players for the subsequent year. Literally every GM in baseball would agree with this. Sorry.
Erica Johnson
Was calling me a boob an insult? Are you six years old?
Steve, its totally reasonable to not disclose proprietary formulas, content of interviews etc and I don't think anyone is screaming (at least I am not) "give me the full question list and scoring mechanism". For me I was trying to discern between the notion that stats were completely ignored in a method driven evaluation or whether there are complimentary. If there are complimentary than I don't know that mainstream stats are "worthless". Perhaps the method suggests they are worthless on their own or in a vacuum.
Since several people have been willing to discuss with me in a very civil way and its been helpful for me, I guess I am wondering why for many there seems to be a very visceral and nasty response to anyone with questions? Why are people who currently believe/use/are familiar with mainstream stats referred to as "frauds"? Maybe they just haven't yet been exposed to/understand/bought in to the method yet. It took time for people to buy in to moneyball as well, but through discussion and understanding it became widely adopted. No reason that couldn't happen here. Maybe the answer is no one is interested in winning people over, but if the forum is public you are going to invite in new people and there naturally will be questions and even some initial skepticism during the learning process.
Thanks to those who took the time to answer my questions on the topic as I try to increase my understanding.
Friday 8/17 7:05pm
Lance Lynn (R)
vs. Blue Jays - Marcus Stroman (R)
1. Brett Gardner (L) LF
2. Giancarlo Stanton (R) DH
3. Aaron Hicks (S) CF
4. Didi Gregorius (L) SS
5. Miguel Andujar (R) 3B
6. Gleyber Torres (R) 2B
7. Greg Bird (L) 1B
8. Neil Walker (S) RF
9. Austin Romine (R) C
Same old story, produce when it counts who should win, don't and you should lose.
Allen’s Wolfpack
I think it’s in large part because the posters here are generally nasty individuals, and as outside of two of them who claim to work for him. They have no hard evidence whatsoever that winmethod does anything he claims he does. As such, they get very defensive.
Allen's Wolfpack, The way I see and understand this blog, WIN METHOD is not trying to indoctrinate anyone. He is educating fans with all he has learned from the knowledge, interaction, and talking with countless players from all over the world with all abilities from World Series champions to high schoolers for at least 55 years. Now you have offered your opinion and insight on how you think the WIN METHOD should be run. Of all the viewers/posters here only an infinitesimal fraction of them have posed the type of questions you have. When I came here several years ago I read the blog from start to finish and sometimes I go back and reread different sections. They are all great and informative. I had no problem understanding the concept and felt it was logical. Far more logical than fake contrived stats made up by people and having those same people make up values for the formulas, and then adjusting the values so they could get the results they wanted. The WIN METHOD is direct and to the point, never falters or waivers, and always defines who is best irrefutably. Irrefutably, except by those who believe winning does not mean the winner is the best. I have tried to bring my knowledge learned here to several Yankee talk forums and I get banned because the stat frauds do not want to accept the winners are the best. Here the admins allow all posters to express their opinions and the responders reply to them in mass. But the naysayers never get banned. What a great concept.
Steve, I've been here since the beginning ten years ago next week. I learned as WIN METHOD posted each new blog post. It really is common sense and logic. I read where the stat frauds claim giving up less runs is better than giving up more runs. That is factual logic and I agree. However, when you throw in the biggest fact winning, it is better to win and give up more runs than lose and give up less runs. Wins and winning out trumps everything else. That is the ultimate common sense and logic.
Allen's Wolfpack, when you point out that posters here call other posters names and insult them, you are correct.
I for one get tired at the ignorance of the stat fraud posters and their snowflake attitude. If they don't like it to bad. A rose is a rose and a jerk is a jerk. I call them the way I see them.
I agree with other posters here. At least they can post their opinions and not get run out.
It’s funny how all the posters here have the same writing style and post the same thing.
Clearly it’s a loony posting multiple things as different people.
Lynn gives up 4 first inning runs as Toronto puts together one heck of a garbage inning. It all counts in the scorebook, hits all be they cheesy, scored runs.
Yankees bounce back on RBI triple from Didi and RBI double from Andujar. Down 4-2.
Yanks down 4-2 after 2.
Walker 3 run homer gives Yankees 5-4 lead in 4th.
Yanks up 5-4 after 4.
Yanks up 6-5 after 6.
Rain delay in bottom of 7th. Yanks lead 7-5 one out no one on. My guess 40-50 minutes.
Storm movement has slowed. Delay looks to be 2 hours.
Game has been called. Yankees win 7-5.
Final. Yankees win rain shortened game 7-5. Green earns the W with two scoreless innings in relief of Lynn. ONE
Louie Louie starts tomorrow and will be looking to get back on track and regain winning form.
Have to hand it to the Yankee players, despite several major injuries for extended periods of time they are hanging in there in their quest for the playoffs.
Lets go Louie Louie, put it all together and get back to winning.
Saturday 8/18 1:05pm
Luis Severino (R)
vs. Blue Jays - Sean Reid-Foley (R)
1. Brett Gardner (L) LF
2. Giancarlo Stanton (R) DH
3. Aaron Hicks (S) CF
4. Didi Gregorius (L) SS
5. Miguel Andujar (R) 3B
6. Gleyber Torres (R) 2B
7. Greg Bird (L) 1B
8. Neil Walker (S) RF
9. Austin Romine (R) C
Exact same lineup as last night. Lets get the same result.
Game will start late do to celebration of 1998 World Series Championship team.
Gregorius 2 run Ballantyne blast gives Yankees 2 run first inning lead.
Yanks up 3-0 after 2.
Yanks up 7-0 after 4.
A much needed laugher today. 8-0 thru 5. Louie Louie with 5 scoreless and likely done for the day. No need to waste pitches.
So much for a laugher as Boone with a managerial blunder sends Louie Louie out to pitch the sixth for absolutely no good reason (not matter what he may say) and it starts th Jays off to a big five run inning. 8-0 lead is now 8-5.
Yankee reopen lead with 3 in 8th and lead 11-5 after 8.
Final Yanks win 11-6. TWO
We can't even win laughers easily. Lets do it again tomorrow.
Happ starts tomorrow against his old team.
Miguel Andujar has really been something special this season. If he progresses, develops and blooms and grows a little more he can be a very special Yankee for a very long time. So far he seems so much more advanced than both Torres and Sanchez who also can be fine players. It appears he rolls with the punches and does not let failure change him, although he has not seen much failure.
Sanchez in Tampa for rehab games.
Lets sweep this series tomorrow. No let ups, need win after win.
Light showers and overcast in the Bronx this morning. Looks OK for the game. Lets win it.
It is so pleasant when the stat fraud are not here posting their garbage. Lets sweep the weekend.
Sunday 8/19 1:05pm
J.A. Happ (L)
vs. Blue Jays - Ryan Borucki (L)
1. Aaron Hicks (S) CF
2. Giancarlo Stanton (R) DH
3. Miguel Andujar (R) 3B
4. Didi Gregorius (L) SS
5. Gleyber Torres (R) 2B
6. Greg Bird (L) 1B
7. Kyle Higashioka (R) C
8. Shane Robinson (R) RF
9. Brett Gardner (L) LF
We face a left today. Robinson RF. Higashioka C. Bird at 1B.
When we see Torres start to drive the ball where it is pitched and he drives the ball to right and right center he will be back to what he should be.
Yankee first inning, walk, walk, single RBI, single RBI, single, grand slam 4 RBI, fly out, ground out, pitching change, fly out. 6 runs 4 hits. Love-ily.
Yanks up 6-1 after 2.
Yanks up 6-1 after 4.
Jerry, I can't speak for what anyone else has posted, referring more to myself. If you look back at what I've written from the beginning I was never confrontational or derogatory, just ask questions that dig into the meat of the method a little bit as I am new to it and I'm interested in new ideas as well as baseball. When I was making at is that even as I was being very reasonable, you can see that several people launched into pretty defensive attacks. If the snowflake comment was directed at me, I think you'll see that I tried to keep steering the conversation back to discussion and didn't run away so I don't think that labels appropriate. Was just making larger statement that people can disagree and have civil discourse, that's usually where breakthroughs happen. Obviously there is no rule that people have to be courteous or civil, I do think it's funny though that if we met in person, I mean the collective we. I imagine people probably wouldn't immediately launch into diatribes against people the way they do. In any case, I appreciate those that took the time to share their perspective with me, it's all very interesting and I'm going to keep reading up on it.
Torres still flailing away at the foot outside slider. Looks terrible, I guess the couple of good hits he pulled yesterday has gone to his head.
Yanks up 10-2 after 6.
A true laugher today. Sweeeeeeeeeeeeep. 10-2 win.
Final Yankees win 10-2. THREE
Off day tomorrow then down to Miami to play Jeter two games, off day and the Four game with the O's in Baltimore including a day/night double header on Saturday.
I hope Jeter goes easy on us.
Question for the bloggers here - do you consider Don Mattingly to be a great player?
Mr. X, please define great.
Yankeeclipper
I’m asking if he’s great in the minds of the posters here and why. If I defined great it would defeat the whole point of why I’m asking.
Guys, I think 'great' needs some context. For my two cents, I do not think Mattingly was great. He may have been the best Yankee over his tenure. He had a short career and was playing with severe back issues. He had solid individual numbers but that alone does not make a player great. How much more he could have achieved individually and helped his team if he did not have back issues would only be conjecture.
Mr. X, If you use the WIN METHOD as a guide and use it based solely during the era Mattingly played he would not be considered by me as a great player. A very good player, but not a great one.
Eddie
Why even a very good player? His teams commonly missed the playoffs and he never even came particularly close to a World Series.
I’m very confused why the Yankees would even have retired his number.
Mr. X, you asked a question of what fans here thought about Don Mattingly. When asked you refused to define what you thought great was. That alone is baloney. I can define great easily. I said Mattingly was very good because he played with pain for several years, he was considered the leader of his team, he was well liked by teammates and opponents. The Yankees may very well have retired his number for those reasons. Throughout the eras of baseball there have many very very good players who did not go to the playoffs. For a very long time baseball only had one team from each league play in the second season which at the time was only the World Series. I have no doubt there where many very very good players who never went to the WS. Therefore I find it pretty easy to think that many players on the second and third place teams in those eras were great.
Eddie
I was trying to get an understanding on how people evaluated players, I recently read through this blog and wanted to increase my understanding. I did it give a definition of great because I specifically wanted to get a sense of what people here defined as greatness. I don’t see how that’s “baloney”.
Regardless of the points you made, based on my reading of the blog greatness should be based almost exclusively on wins created throughout ones career. As such, I don’t believe we can call mattingley great, or even very good, because he didn’t win very much at all. Do people outside of Eddie agree with this?
Allen's Wolfpack, I apologize if you took my comments as an attack on you. I was just generalizing. Everything you need to know is all in this blog. I think different contributors will each have their own idiosyncrasies regarding the WIN METHOD.
Gary Sanchez will play in several rehab games with the Tampa Tarpons this week. Back by sometime next weekend if all goes well or right after.
Tanaka and Lynn listed as starters for the two game Marlin series in Miami. Keep your heads clear guys.
I have only came to this blog about a year ago and I was a stat guy, yes I was a stat fraud. A buddy of mine told me to read the WIN METHOD blog and see what I thought. The result was that I am now a WIN METHOD fan and reasonably regular contributor.
The reason I am posting this is that I can tell 9 out of 10 times when there is a new poster on this blog whether or not he is a stat fraud or not. The fun part for me is reading their nonsense and knowing I was once one of them.
No question greatness must be defined. I think the fact that only a little over 19,000 players have ever played MLB since 1871 makes them all great and the best.
I like and understand why WIN METHOD has always used the best of the best in his blog posts.
Randy Holt and Hobbs...Both very strong comments. The more I read from posters here the more I believe in the WIN METHOD. Yes, all players have to be great to play MLB. I didn't like Mr. X's trying to create a controversy with the way he pose his questions. He comes here for the first time and wants people to respond to him. He may have nothing but good intentions and I'll leave it at that. When Eddie OConnor answered him, he then questioned Eddie's post.
Personally I'd rather talk about our race to the playoffs than a player from over 20 years ago.
We need to win both games in Miami. Splits don't help. Wins mean no one can gain on us. It always comes down to wins.
Stanton returns to his old home ballpark. Lets take both games before another off day.
All I can add is lets go Yankees.
If we can get completely healthy and build in September hopefully we can make some noise in October. Just need to win. Wins overshadows everything else.
Tanaka needs to be tough each start and earn wins.
Didi may also be out for a few games with a bone bruise on his right heel. He injured it Sunday and was taken out of the game after two innings. Off day yesterday, if he misses tonights and tomorrows games there is another off day Thursday, maybe he will be ready for the four games in Baltimore.
Hope that is all Didi is out. No DH these two games.
When you consider all the injuries this season, Boone has done a great job holding this team together and playing .600 baseball which is only being done by a few teams.
Didi has been placed on the 10 day DL. Torres will play shortstop.
Tuesday 8/21 7:10pm
Masahiro Tanaka (R)
@ Marlins - Pablo Lopez (R)
1. Brett Gardner (L) LF
2. Giancarlo Stanton (R) RF
3. Aaron Hicks (S) CF
4. Miguel Andujar (R) 3B
5. Greg Bird (L) 1B
6. Gleyber Torres (R) SS
7. Neil Walker (S) 2B
8. Austin Romine (R) C
9. Masahiro Tanaka (R) P
With all out injuries this lineup is still pretty strong. When it counts guys, when it counts.
If our pitching steps up we can weather yet another obstacle. Lets win every game this weeks. Yes we can. Lets go Yankees.
I just want to let all you WIN METHOD posters know that there has been a rash of stat fraud posters here the past month or so. First thing to remember is that they will lie in their posts and then claim all the good intentions in the world and their next claim will be how can so many posters call them names and insult the, and finally they will claim they just want to learn more about the WIN METHOD. If any of you are doubt just go back to the first thing to remember. They post to stir up you guys and gals and look for ways to corrupt good opinions, conversations, and discussions between you knowledgeable baseball fans. Remember, they have nothing. You go to their forums and you get banned. We don't ban, we just show what fools they are.
Thank you all.
johnsondc, you hit the nail on the head. The best is when we discuss with the stat frauds their points and comments, we all make fools of them and prove how fraudulent and fake their opinions are. I particularly like when they say they are new to the WIN METHOD and want to learn. I ask anyone and everyone who has come to this blog, read the blog, and posts comments on the blog, have any of you had be taught what it conveys or had to ask how to understand it?
GAME TIME.
0-0 after 2.
Yanks up 1-0 after 4.
1-1 thru five. Yankees have failed several times when it mattered.
1-1 after 6.
1-1 after 8.
On to extra innings tied at one.
We need a run and a win.
1-1 after 10.
Cole loads the bases in the 11th with nobody out and then pitches out of the jam. 1-1
Andujar with sac fly for 2-1 lead. Chapman in for save try.
This has been a game of futility.
Chapman walks leadoff man in 12th and those calls to dugout for trainer and he comes out of the game with some kind of issue. Kahnle called in.
Kahnle 2 up 2 down with base runner thrown out stealing for the final out. Kahnle gets the save and Yankee win.
Final 2-1 Yankee win in 12 innings. FOUR
Lets do it again tomorrow.
We won a game last night we could have won early and should have last last. But it is still a win.
Lynn starts tonight to try to win this two game series with the Marlins.
After Green pitched his way out of a jam last night Cole came in and loaded the bases with no outs and pitched out of an even bigger jam. The Marlins had many chances to win the game last night with an out as did the Yankees earlier in the game. Finally in the 12th Andujar won the game with an out. Just by hitting a fly ball when it mattered when after ao many others failed.
How many more injuries can this team bear?
We did not produce when it counted last night and thus had to scratch and claw and maybe even got lucky to win last night, produce tonight and get a clear win.
Wednesday 8/22 7:10pm
Lance Lynn (R)
@ Marlins - Trevor Richards (R)
1. Brett Gardner (L) LF
2. Giancarlo Stanton (R) RF
3. Aaron Hicks (S) CF
4. Miguel Andujar (R) 3B
5. Neil Walker (S) 2B
6. Gleyber Torres (R) SS
7. Greg Bird (L) 1B
8. Austin Romine (R) C
9. Lance Lynn (S) P
Same lineup as lineup except Walker and Bird are flipped and of course the pitchers spot.
Lets get it done guys. Only wins will make the playoffs, everyone else is done including the stat frauds. They will come home and tell the world their players would be in the playoffs if their players were on the winning teams. Ah duh?
Just say no to stat frauds.
0-0 after 2.
Yanks up 1-0 after 4.
After Yankees take a 2-0 lead in the sixth, Lynn gives up 5 runs in the bottom of the sixth.
Yanks down 5-2 after 6.
Yanks down 9-3 after 8.
For the life of me I can't figure out Boone's game management strategy.
Final, Yankees lose 9-3.
Off day today. Last nights loss doesn't help the cause.
The Yankees need to get Judge back soon and Sanchez also if he comes back as Sanchez and not the interstate bat.
I guess everyone knows, Chapman on 10 day DL.
CC off the DL and has been named as starter for Friday nights game one of four in Baltimore.
What's up with Clint Frazier? It looks like he is a snowflake in my opinion. Bring back the good old day of playing through injuries.
Sweep the O's. Lets go Yankees.
Louie Louie scheduled for Sunday start, Happ for day game Saturday, no one yet for the Saturday night game of the day/night double header.
The Yankees with CC's stint on the DL need for him to come back stronger and sharper for the final run to the playoffs. We need wins.
It looks like the last round of stat frauds is gone. How great it is.
Victor Grandozi...No doubt Frazier is a head case. Probably in a couple of ways.
Friday 8/24 7:05pm
CC Sabathia (L)
@ Orioles - Alex Cobb (R)
1. Brett Gardner (L) LF
2. Giancarlo Stanton (R) DH
3. Aaron Hicks (S) CF
4. Miguel Andujar (R) 3B
5. Neil Walker (S) RF
6. Gleyber Torres (R) SS
7. Luke Voit (R) 1B
8. Austin Romine (R) C
9. Ronald Torreyes (R) 2B
Bird on bench vs left hander? Voit 1B Walker RF Torreyes 2B.
Yanks down 2-0 after 2.
2-2 after 4.
CC goes six good innings and leaves with a no decision and a 2-2 score.
Robertson in relief gives up 2 run home run in 7th putting Yankees down 4-2 after 7.
Yanks score 2 in 8th for a 4-4 tie after 8.
Extra innings tied at 4.
Walker solo HR and Voigt second 2 run HR of game give Yankees 7-4 lead mid 10th. Britton coming in for the save try.
Final Yankees win in 10 innings 7-5. ONE
Happ starts the 1 PM game and Grayskies starts the 7PM game. Lets take two.
Saturday 8/25 1:05pm
J.A. Happ (L)
@ Orioles - Jimmy Yacabonis (R)
1. Brett Gardner (L) LF
2. Giancarlo Stanton (R) DH
3. Aaron Hicks (S) CF
4. Miguel Andujar (R) 3B
5. Neil Walker (S) 2B
6. Gleyber Torres (R) SS
7. Luke Voit (R) 1B
8. Kyle Higashioka (R) C
9. Shane Robinson (R) RF
Saturday 8/25 1:05pm
J.A. Happ (L)
@ Orioles - Jimmy Yacabonis (R)
1. Brett Gardner (L) LF
2. Giancarlo Stanton (R) DH
3. Aaron Hicks (S) CF
4. Miguel Andujar (R) 3B
5. Neil Walker (S) 2B
6. Gleyber Torres (R) SS
7. Luke Voit (R) 1B
8. Kyle Higashioka (R) C
9. Shane Robinson (R) RF
Voit at 1B, Higashioka C, Robinson RF. No Bird again.
Andujar produces again with a man on third and less than two outs gets the run in with a ground out for a 1-0 lead.
Rookie of year Andujar with a 3 run home run in third putting Yanks up 5-2.
Yankees lead 5-2 thru three innings.
Shane Robinson playing great defense and has a single and double in two at bats so far. A prefect backup outfielder.
I think the issue Torres is having maybe he thinks he is being overshadowed by Andujar and trying to keep up. Andujar is a rare gem in the mold of Jeter with the bat and has more power. Andujar is also better defensively than Torres and both are good. Torres needs to go back where he came from and drive the ball to all fields and accept singles and doubles and not get pull happy looking for HRs all the time.
As I write Torres boots the easiest of all plays a shortstop can make.
Happ goes six strong innings and leaves leading 8-2 after six. NIne K's. Cessa in for the seventh.
Final Yankees win 10-3 laugher. TWO
Cessa goes final three allowing one chintzy run and gives bullpen a good rest for tonight.
Rahm Mahoud, if Grayskies comes up empty again tonight we will need all the relief arms we have to earn the win. Lets root for Grayskies to earn the win.
Saturday 8/25 7:05pm
Sonny Gray (R)
@ Orioles - Andrew Cashner (R)
1. Brett Gardner (L) LF
2. Giancarlo Stanton (R) DH
3. Aaron Hicks (S) CF
4. Miguel Andujar (R) 3B
5. Neil Walker (S) RF
6. Gleyber Torres (R) SS
7. Greg Bird (L) 1B
8. Austin Romine (R) C
9. Ronald Torreyes (R) 2B
Nice lineup. Bird back at 1B. Hope the time off helps him.
coryankee, I tend to think you are right about Torres. He was the highest touted Yankee and Andujar has surpassed him. He may be trying to hard to catch up. Just relax and play baseball to help the team and not try to outdo a teammate.
Lets go Yankees.
Time to take two.
Torres on first pitch lines single through the right side. That is his game, hit the ball where it's pitched.
Yanks up 3-0 after 2.
Yanks up 4-0 after 4.
Yankees lead 5-0 after five innings and are playing some very sloppy baseball with five runners thrown out on the base paths killing rally after rally.
Yanks up 4-0 after 6.
Gray throws his best game of the season. 6 1/3 innings, 0 runs, 3 hits, 1 walk. Leads 4-0 after 7.
Yanks up 4-0 after 8.
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