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Tuesday, December 6, 2016

WIN METHOD 2017 ----- BLOOM AND GROW

Yes WIN METHOD fans, you have spoken, therefore the title of this blog post.  BLOOM AND GROW.  As 2016 nears its end, and the baseball winter meetings are held where deals are talked about and some consummated, and as the 2016 year concludes with the Christmas holidays, and the new 2017 year arrives and it will be a season for the New York YANKEES to BLOOM AND GROW.


After a couple of recent seasons of not making the playoffs, getting older as a team, disappointing the fans, dropping attendance, and overall down years, the YANKEES look like they may be going full bore at getting younger with many of their WIN METHOD selected youngsters being given a real chance to make the major league roster, make the team younger, make the team a contender more consistently and winning the World Series again.  Time for the farm to bloom and grow.


The list of YANKEE prospects is very promising.  Likely not all will make the major leagues, some may be traded away for a piece the YANKEE decision makers feel they need for a certain position.  The best part however is they will all get the chance to bloom and grow and some will make a major impact on the YANKEE team this 2017 season as Gary Sanchez has done already in the last seven weeks of the 2016 season, apparently earning the starting catcher job for the 2017 season.  Look for these names in 2017 and beyond, outfielders Clint Frazier,  Aaron Judge, Blake Rutherford, Dustin Fowler, Billy McKinney, Mason Williams, Jake Cave, Trey Amburgery, and Leonardo Molina. Infielders Gleyber Torres, Jorge Mateo, Miguel Andujar, Wilkerman Garcia, Tyler Wade, Hoy Jun Park, and Kyle Holder.  Catchers Luis Torrens, and Donny Sands.  Pitchers Justus Sheffield, Domingo Acevedo, James Kaprielian, Albert Abreu, Dillon Tate, Chance Adams, Ian Clarkin, Drew Finley, Jordan Montgomery, Chad Green, Dietrich Enns, and Freicer Perez.


Do not forget, Greg Bird returning in 2017 after missing 2016 with major shoulder surgery, other youngsters who have been placed on the 40 man roster or have seen some major league experience, Johnny Barbato, Richard Bleier, Giovanny Gallegos, Domingo German, Nick Goody, Ben Heller, Ronald Herrera, Johnaton Holder, Brian Mitchell, Yefrey Ramirez, Luis Severino, Kyle Higashioka, Rob Refsnyder and Tyler Austin.  There are so many with so much potential.


Some of these guys will become big names, some lesser names but yet accomplished major leaguers, some roll players that help make the team as best it can be,and some dealt away.  Bloom and grow. We wish them all healthy and fruitful careers wherever their career takes them.


Also, look forward to a very special day in 2017.  Mark your calendars,  Sunday, mothers day, May 14th against the Houston Astros, the YANKEES will retire the greatest ever WIN METHOD players number 2 Derek Jeter.  May the YANKEES be so blesses that as the youngsters bloom and grow we have another in the mold of Derek Jeter, the best and greatest major league baseball player in the past three decades.


Never forget that wins and winning always defines the best players and teams in the real world while individual stats and make believe made up formulas created by the foolish stat frauds are only for their fantasy games and fantasy world.


LETS GO YANKEES!  BLOOM AND GROW

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YankeeMike said...

As of now, we have established players starting Holiday at DH, Castro at 2B, Didi at SS, Headley at 3B, Gardner in LF, and Ellsbury in CF. Three youngsters, Sanchez at C, Bird at 1B, and Judge in RF. As the youngsters bloom and grow the established six players will likely be moved out in various ways.

Erica Johnston said...

I would like to see at least three more youngsters start by the end of 2017 and surely by the start of 2018.

Doug Shoen said...

Erica Johnston....they will start if they earn it.

Hal Moore said...

Unless there is an injury or two, or a trade or two, it will not be easy for rookies to upend established names.

Teena/Bronx said...

I bet Jeter will quietly stop by and talk to many of the rookies and help lead them in the right direction.

Dane Ostroff said...

Jeter is a leader and a winner, while afraud is a loser, cheater, liar, and druggie.

Jack Gordon said...

I always thought it a shame that afraud wasn't totally kicked out of baseball.

Quay Ho said...

Look at the bright side. afraud isn't on the roster.

Andrew J said...

afraud should have never been a Yankee. He cost us at least several more championships.

yankeeclipper21 said...

The heck with afraud. May he rest in peace.

Steve said...

Here is a quote from one of two stat frauds debating Starlin Castros value as a Yankee last season, and he is using the WIN METHOD when it matters tenet to make his point.

"""""""Of course it makes what you've been saying less valid. Your whole position has been that he had negative value last year because of his statistical ranking. Let's just look at his impact on wins in real games during those 6 weeks. This isn't hypothetical.

8/1 - 9th inning GWRBI in 6-5 win over Mets
8/5 - Grand Slam to break open a 2-0 game, powering NY to a 13-7 win over the Indians
8/12 - With Yanks down 2-1, gave them 3-2 lead with 2-run single, then broke 3-3 tie with 2-run HR for GWRBI in win over Rays
8/13 - Brought Yanks back from 3-2 deficit with HR, won 6-3 over Rays
8/20 - Key double in 1-run game, followed by 2-out single later helped turn 1-0 to 5-0 win
8/26 - 3 for 5 , scored a run in a 14-4 rout of O's
8/27 - With Yanks down 2-1, 2-out single, 2RBI, followed by SB & a run created 4-2 lead.2-run HR later extended 5-4 lead to 7-4 win over O's
8/31 - Yanks down 4-1, hit 2-run HR, then scored game winning run off double in the 13th
9/6 - GWRBI Off Sac Fly in 7-6 win over Jays
9/7 - His HR in a scoreless tie was the GWRBI in a 2-0 win over Jays

That's 6 game winning RBI in 6 weeks + 2 game tying RBI in wins, and a total of 10 games that his bat directly impacted the winning outcome during the Yankees surge. A bunch of those games they don't win without him. He also had several HR in losing efforts where Yankee pitching lost the games. Real results in real games, not statistical hypotheticals.""""""

Yankeeforever said...

The one and only WIN METHOD.

Nick Polito said...

Seems like the best way to evaluate talent. Wins and winning.

Peter Raines said...

Nick, it is the most effective way to evaluate talent. You have to win.

William Mensom said...

The goal of a team is to win games, as many as they can. Wins are earned by all players on the team helping each other to be the best they can be by producing when it counts more often than their opposition. Producing when it counts is the same for hitters, pitchers, offense and defense. Players are interdependent on their teammates both in creating and preventing runs. The players on the team that produce the most when it matters the most consistently over the season will go to the playoffs, advance through the playoffs, and then win the World Series. Wins will determine who is best. Don't let any stat fraud tell you differently, because they have no idea how baseball is played in the real world. Stat frauds are fantasy fools.

Patricia Piper said...

In just 25 days we will start to make the Yankees great again as we start to bloom and grow.

okiened said...

William Mensom, You so eloquently state what matters and define the way baseball should be played.

Jill Byrnes said...

Thank you for you brilliant words William Mensom.

Yankeelover said...

Yes we can and yes we will. Lets go Yankees.

will-i-am said...

Berances and Yankees in a dispute over Betances 2017 salary and the decision will go to arbitration which the Yankees should easily win. Betances will try to use individual stats to make his case.

Kyle Jakes said...

When Betances learns to hold runners on and throw the ball to bases maybe then he can earn what he is asking for. His performance in helping the team win is the key.

Izy Hernandez said...

Betances just got married. He is just trying to get as much as he can, but I do not think he will get what he is asking for. Mutual negotiation would have been a better way to go in my opinion.

Mike Smith said...

Betances may be on the short end of the straw with all the up and coming young pitchers the Yankees have.

Augie DeFonce said...

Mike, the same can be said for all the young guys. Produce at a very high level or someone else will and you could be out the door.

Sal Mineo said...

Really looking forward to the upcoming season. Yes we can.

Robert Mandel said...

So close but yet so far. Spring training and baseball draws closer each day.

Swen Jorgenson said...

A new era is dawning on several fronts and the Yankees are one of them.

silverstorm said...

Bloom and grow and may the wins be the harvest.

Guy Padikian said...

I'm with you silverstorm.

Warren Hammond said...

Yes fans, it always comes back to wins. Because nothing else matters. No stat for any individual player, no award for any individual player, and no accomplishment by any individual player. The team wins because of what all players on each team produce when it matters, working together to produce runs, prevent runs, and eventually win more games than their opponents. It is not complicated, and there are no stats nor man made convoluted formulas, that are in essence meaningless claptrap. Only, and I repeat, only wins determine the best teams and players.

Deb F said...

Well said Warren. That is the crux of the WIN METHOD.

Hugh Frazier said...

I hope the newbies you read this blog do not get the wrong impression regarding stats from this blog. Stats are very important when used properly. Stat can tell how many and how much players achieve. But by no means do stats tell who are the best players. There is only one stat that can do that and it is wins.

Victor Grandozi said...

Hugh Frazier, exactly why so few stat frauds post here. They are embarrassed every time they post and their stupidity is displayed and then proven how errant they are by so many brilliant WIN METHOD fans here.

Vladimir Tinzik said...

2017 is the season of the rookies.

Tony Manchu said...

William Mensom and Warren Hammond, very strong, solid, and factual posts.

Sharon/NC said...

As spring training gets closer as also the season I am getting more and more anxious for Yankee baseball and a great season.

Lori Kelly said...

I'm with you Sharon. Lets go Yankees.

Yankeedoodledandy said...

I think we are down to 3 weeks and 2 days until pitchers and catchers report, and then off we go to the playoffs.

Carl Hooks said...

Bloom and grow guys, bloom and grow.

Neil Golub said...

All appears to be peaceful on the Yankee front. Lets keep it that way until opening day when we explode.

Augie DeFonce said...

Wins is the goal once the season starts. You don't earn wins you don't go to the playoffs. Nothing else matters.

Cal Fuerst said...

Thus the WIN METHOD, the greatest evaluation tool ever, with the most playoffs, pennants, and World Championships.

Ivan Norrionkos said...

Lets start off winning in April and never let up.

Gil McKenzie said...

Can we put together another WIN METHOD run. Will be establish another core four. Can we come up with anyone even close to Derek Jeter. Lets find out.

Yanks23245 said...

Gil.... Yes, maybe, doubtful.

Sal Mineo said...

I wish stat frauds and WIN METHOD fans could blend and get along, but when stat frauds say when wins are not a good way to evaluate players, logically there can be no accord with stat frauds that are so stupid.

Artie S said...

Three goals for this season.
Goal one, make the playoffs.
Goal two, advance as far as possible thru the playoffs.
Goal three, win the World Series.

Bloom and grow.

Gabe Pren said...

Then why bother to play any games if wins don't mean anything.

bigbadwolf said...

Gabe, you have to play the games to have stats. The man made stats are the problem and are the ones that are worthless and feckless.

Andy K said...

With Hicks as the 4th out fielder, he gives Girardi much flexibility to rest different guys everyday or mix and match lineups to ballparks and or pitchers.

Domenic said...

Competition for playing time never hurts, and could improve the results from all the competitors.

candycane said...

Lets bloom and grow.

Hugh Frazier said...

Domenic, that is what I am hoping for across the board including the youngsters. Compete and challenge each other to be the best you can all the while with the desire to help your team win before your individual ego.

Tommy Lee said...

There we go again, talking about wins, how dare we.

Neil Golub said...

Wins, the disease that kills stat frauds.

Guy Padikian said...

Three weeks from today and camp opens for pitchers and catchers.

Steve said...

Tanaka will not pitch this year in the useless and meaningless WBC. A sham series of games.

Benny Pake said...

The WBC is a farce.

johnsondc said...

Fans, try to remember when you see ratings of young and upcoming players for all teams that the organizations and people responsible for those ratings are only their own opinions which is meaningless. Each and every player will get their opportunity to show their worth on the field against opposition that is also trying to show the worth. Just as many 10th, 11th, and 12th round players make the major leagues as a 1st round picks. As the young players show their skills the rating people and organizations update their rankings which again are no great value. Any fan in the stands can see how well each player is performing by going to games and seeing for themselves. The young players will earn their playing time and status via their own abilities and skills to help their team win in the major leagues.

Phil Jenkins said...

johnsondc, exactly. Ratings are just that opinions. Those opinions are garnered in many different ways by many people. Nothing is perfect, not even the WIN METHOD, but the WIN METHOD has been the best for the past 2 1/2 decades. Irrefutable.

Eddie OConnor said...

johnsondc, Phil Jenkins, the stat frauds live and die by the opinions of those organizations, they draft their fantasy players based on those opinions.

Yankeeforever said...

Being a Yankee fan, I will stick with WIN METHOD and his selections.

Patricia Piper said...

The WIN METHOD buries all other ratings and raters, hands down, head over heels, thumbs up, and toes curled.

okiened said...

I know the WIN METHOD is number one. You don't get to as many playoffs, pennants, and World Series unless you are the best.

Vladimir Tinzik said...

Still the finest and most intelligent Yankee and all baseball blog in the universe.

Linda Pardo said...

Bloom and grow, lets go young Yankees.

Wilsonsway said...

Soon there will be baseball. Extend the season, start spring training last week of January. First regular season games first week of March. It can be done, start the season in the warm weather cities and domed stadiums.

Paul Hill said...

If we had all domed stadiums we could play baseball year around. Then we wouldn't have any gap in sports.

Guy Padikian said...

20 days until pitchers and catchers.

Karl R said...

I hope everyone is getting ready for camp and to earn a position.

Jerry Curcio said...

Bloom and grow time is getting closer and closer. Just need to add some fertilizer.

Jed Hough said...

I wonder if the fool stat frauds who follow those meaningless player ratings really think it makes a bit of difference to how well a player performs at the MLB level if he is rated 8th or 108th.

Todd Griffin said...

The stat fraud are under the fools assumption that any prospect will help any team equally. That is patently false in every way, shape, and form.

bigbadwolf said...

That is why the WIN METHOD crushes raters and ratings. Players are not machines, it is the interview that finds what makes each one tick and what drives them or not.

Teena/Bronx said...

Each person likely has a favorite or two they hope becomes the future star, I hope they all become stars. But I will accept any of the youngsters who can lead the way ala Jeter.

Ben Rosen/Israel said...

The more posts I read here, the more I can't wait for the season to start. Lets go Yankees.

Boston Yankee said...

We will be number one again. Lets take over the coming decade.

Stan the Man said...

Smile, be happy, we will be great again.

Chad Greene said...

Let the kids bloom and grow and win.

Robert Mandel said...

It does look like Cashman is not doing anything stupid like going after a starting pitcher to add to the rotation. It looks like he will roll with whoever wins the job(s) during spring training. We have better and more of them.

jimbo said...

Robert Mandell...no question I would rather go with our own young pitchers.

Paul Hill said...

Only stat frauds would want someone elses garbage and trade our chips away for that garbage.

yankeeclipper21 said...

Having the finest crop of young players in almost every position of any team in baseball is going to carry us a long way for a long time. Bloom and grow.

Diane Stahl said...

Every passing day brings us closer to bloom and grow.

Claude Raines said...

Great competition by teammates to be the best and earn each's playing time in the big leagues is going to make for much entertainment for us fans.

Mark Wagoner said...

Aimed at the Yankee kidee corp. Yes YOU can!

Xavier Young said...

With Betances going the arbitration route, we may wish to dump him. Particularly if he continues to be unable to hold runners on and or throw to bases. With so many young arms on the horizon, Betances may be easily expendable. Now, if he corrects his issues, he may be worth holding on to or may have even higher value down the road to trade.

Cory said...

Like we always say, management makes the only decisions that matter, and they try to do what they think is best for the team with the knowledge and information they have, that absolutely no one else has. The baseball fan is just guessing and or surmising.

Ted Lilly said...

Exactly! Cory.

johnny said...

Lets go Yankees.

Steven said...

Xavier
Don't understand that line of thinking. He's under team control for a number of years, as a middle reliever will not be making that much money through arbitration, and has proven to effective pitcher for us.

Why would you want to just dump him because he's going through arbitration?

White Knight said...

Player attitudes can change. Betances just got married two months ago, and he may have had is outlook and priorities changed by the wife.

Stan the Man said...

I wouldn't be surprised if WIN METHOD interviews Betances soon if he hasn't already to get a more recent gauge of his WIN METHOD value.

Steven said...

Based on his going to arbitration? Why is that a big deal?

Derek Jeter once went to arbitration and won against the Yankees. Think you may be reading a little bit too much into it...

Stan the Man said...

Steven,
http://www.nytimes.com/1999/02/17/sports/baseball-thanks-to-arbitration-jeter-gets-5-million-deal.html

Is it possible there is a significant difference between Jeter and Betances and their accomplishments at time of each's arbitration.

NJYANKEE said...

Stan the Man. There is an enormous difference that isn't even debatable. I hope everyone checks it out. Even the fact that Cashman turned down a settlement offered by Jeter.

Steven said...

My point is that going to arbitration isn't inherently bad or mean anything bad on the player.

He and Jeter both feel like they're worth more than they were offered and are deciding to let a 3rd party ultimately decide. I don't think I said anything about who accomplished more nor do I see why that's a factor in the point I'm making.

Unknown said...

You'll also notice in that article that Mariano went to arbitration. Players do this all the time it really not a big deal.

Yankeedoodledandy said...

Jeter lead his team to championships, Betances has not. Jeter deserved what he got and I do not think Betances will get what he wants.

Xavier Young said...

Steven, if you knew and believe in the WIN METHOD, you would be able to understand my line of thinking.

Mike Smith said...

Greatness comes from within.

Glen Corbett said...

Xavier Young, stat frauds are unable to understand nor do they want to. They rather play fantasy baseball with their meaningless individual stats.

Felix Lopez said...

If Betances doesn't get his act together he may very well lose out on the Yankee up and coming renaissance titled bloom and grow.

Stanley Chin said...

I also believe Betances loses his arbitration case. When he loses how reacts and produces will be on him.

KevMac said...

Down to 18 days fans. Sweet.

Ned Porter said...

Chomping on the bit, can't wait for Yankee baseball.

Steve said...

Stats can only tell you so much and how many or how much a player is able to achieve for himself is not as important as when a player achieves for the team. That is the WIN METHOD difference.

William Mensom said...

Far too many players in baseball get paid far to much and far too many of them never help their team to continued and consistence successes. Much of that is the fault of ill informed decision makers foolishly using feckless sabremtetrics.

Saul Irving said...

It is quite possible that in 2-3 years more than half the Yankee roster could be home grown talent.

WIN METHOD said...

To keep everyone in the loop, you the fans of the WIN METHOD have initiated the name of this blog post, and yes, you fans have initiated the name of the next blog post coming out around opening day this season. Fans from over 200 countries all over the world read this blog and post here. You are the smartest most knowledgeable baseball fans. Thank you for your support as we continue to bloom and grow.

RLA said...

Right on William. You are correct.

reinvaldez said...

Thank you WIN METHOD.

Erica Nuyens said...

Your the best WIN METHOD. Love ya,

Yankeeforever said...

Read the three posts above from William Mensom, Saul Irving, and WIN METHOD, and you will see why this is the greatest baseball blog, with more wisdom, knowledge, and common sense than all others combined.

Laura Suarez said...

The WIN METHOD blog rules. Wins and winning rules. Anything else is for fools. Yes, I am a poet, and I know it.

Tom Loughlin said...

Thank you WIN METHOD and everyone who posts here.

Yankeedoodledandy said...

Things look very promising for the Yankees for 2017 and beyond.

Lori Kelly said...

There may be fans who are rooting for their favorite Yankee rookie to make the grade. that is fine, for me I am rooting for each and everyone and who becomes the best make no difference as long as they lead the team to wins and playoffs, pennants, and World Series rings.

Gus Papa said...

I think it is quite possible there could be 15 or more home grown players on the Yankee ML roster in a couple of years.

Sharon/NC said...

Thanks for the new WIN METHOD. Looking forward to your next posting.

Victor Grandozi said...

You people are killing me. Lets get the season started already.

Yanks23245 said...

Oh yeah. It is getting closer to bloom and grow.

Steven said...

" Fans from over 200 countries all over the world..."

I'm sure you're all going to freak out over this, but there are less than 200 countries in the entire world. So this just can't be true, but hey - you guys are the smartest so.

johnsondc said...

Steven, we know you stat frauds are all gung ho about statistics. We also know how useless statistics are. Although they are not countries per-say, we consider territories and dependencies with their own governments has individual entities. We consider it hard for stat frauds to understand logic, but to illustrate what we are talking about. For instance Guam is a dependency of the USA but if a fan logs in from Guam it lists as Guam, not the USA. Also Aruba instead of the Netherlands, and Montserrat instead of England. There are over 50 such areas all over the world which list as individual areas when a fan visits the WIN METHOD blog.
Sorry, but the stat frauds lose another one.

Bud Light said...

johnsondc, wouldn't even Puerto Rico register has a separate listing?

Steven said...

Do I lose? Those still aren't separate countries...you even admitted as such.

Steven said...

You can't just deem other territories as countries because it fits your narrative johnsondc, that's insane.

johnsondc said...

Steven, sorry about getting your tights in a wad. No question they are not countries, but they are separate individual elected governed entities.

Steven said...

Haha "tights in wad". I'm fine buddy, you're just wrong.

johnsondc said...

Bud Light, positively, Puerto Rico is a separate listing and the WIN METHOD blog has many fans from Puerto Rico and many other individually elected governed entities.
There are, if I am not mistaken over 50 such entities.

Neil Golub said...

johnsondc, Steven maintains his record of contrarian views. He does provide comic relief.

johnsondc said...

Steven, fine. The WIN METHOD blog has viewers from almost 250 countries and entities from all over the world. Does that make you a happy camper now?

Steven said...

It's not a contrarian view, it's a fact. What is funny about it?

Tony Manchu said...

Steven, just like the fact that a 20-0 pitcher with a 4.00 ERA is better for his team than a 5-15 pitcher with a 2.00 ERA.

Steven said...

Cool, find me a fime that's ever happened to such an extreme.

Fred Slube said...

Come on now Tony, you know the stat frauds want the loser. They hate winning pitchers.

Steven said...

Come on now Fred, you know that smart people realize that pitchers can only control run prevention, but that a purely team stat - wins - should be the only thing to evaluate the individual player.

Tony Manchu said...

Steven, likely won't happen, but it could. How about these five pitchers for a season Storm Davis 19-7 4.36 ERA, Shawn Estes 15-8 5.84 ERA, Steve Blass 16-10 4.46 ERA, Dan Spillner 16-11 5.28 ERA, and Kirk Rueter 15-10 5.41 ERA. These five started 160 games between them, Won 81 and lost 46 with 33 no decisions and 2 games started by another pitcher. The 33+2 would leave 35 games to be decided. Lets go real low ball and say the team went 14-21 in those games thus finishing their season at 95-67. Probably wins their division or surely makes the playoffs.

Fred Slube said...

Steven, right, the players on the field have no input on the pitchers runs allowed. Give me a break.

Yankeelover said...

Fred Slube, I thought the players are only on the field to make an error here and there so the runs the pitcher allows are unearned.

Ned Porter said...

195 or 196 or 200. No big deal but to a stat fraud.

Pierre Jadot said...

You guys are amazing. Love it.

Paul Hirschman said...

All I want is wins, and I don't care how they are earned.

Steven said...

You found 5 pitchers in the history of baseball none of who came close to 20-0...

Also I said the pitcher only has control on so much. You bringing up the other players having a lot of control only enhances the point I'm making. I'm concerned of your reading comprehension.

Steven said...

Ned
Believe he said over 200. Nice try.

Yankeeforever said...

Steven, you are proving with every post the inability of the stat frauds to comprehend the greatest evaluation tool in the world, the WIN METHOD. You snivel about a difference of 2 1/2 % in the number of countries mentioned in a most that could have just as easily stated well over 200 countries and self governed areas in the world. Big deal. The fact doesn't change and proves why stats are meaningless. It is meaningless whether or not it is 200 or just under, the same as it would be if a pitcher has 195 or 200 strike outs last season. Meaningless.
Then you snivel about pitchers who had solid winning seasons that almost any team would want on their team be it any spot in the rotation, even though they had high ERAs.
Then you also snivel the fans here can't comprehend your weak posts and opinions.
You stick with your stats, I will stick win wins and winning and you will lose every time.

Gloria LeClair said...

Two weeks and two days and we open camp. Lets go Yankees.

Tony Manchu said...

Steven, but you have stated in earlier posts that you would rather have low ERA loser over the higher ERA winner. Just making a point on how stupid that is, and if you worked for me and came to me with that opinion, I would laugh at you and then fire you. And I would have a better organization for it.

Nell Golub said...

I said earlier and say it again. Steven does provide comic relief. He is like a cartoon character repeating the same gibberish over and over and over. Eventually all the audience can do is laugh.

bigbadwolf said...

Steven represents stat frauds very well. They cannot defend their useless stats unless they confuscate the issue. They love to claim how their individual player with great stats is the greatest player all the while that player helps his team fail. They then blame his teammates and claim that player would be a champion on another team. Then they say the winning player who constantly helps his team to playoffs and more season after season is not great, and if he was on another team he would lose. Many ifs, ands, and buts. The goal is not for any one player to achieve. It is the goal for all players to help the team WIN. That is what the frauds will not accept. So they worship at the alter of Bill James, possibly one of the greatest frauds of all time. They use their stats to play fantasy games and use those meaningless stats to declare who the winner is. At the same time, in the real world, the knowing fans realize who is best at the end by who wins and the players who make it happen in reality. Sad, that so many people can't grasp reality. Maybe it is a mental deficiency of some kind. Probably where the phrase brain dead came from.
So WIN METHOD fans, stick with wins and winning, enjoy the game and watch to see how teammates work to be the best by helping each other help their team win.

Deb F said...

bigbadwolf, now you've gone and done it. You have confused the stat frauds to no end.

George W said...

They are confused enough, all we do is try to help them see the light.

Vladimir Tinzik said...

There is this old saying and it pertains very well to stat frauds. The blind stat fraud said I see to his deaf daughter.

Steven said...

I said I would take the lower ERA pitcher (though would look at many other stats) for the future because wins alone is a poor predictive stat. I don't think many of you can read well, and I tire of you twisting my words.

I love how you guys love to talk about how smart you are, it's cute.

Steven said...

Hey let's relax all- I don't agree with everything you guys say, which apparently is not allowed, but I do agree we have a lot of exciting young players coming through the pipeline. Should be a fun season.

You guys shouldn't be so angry!

Victor Bruno said...

Steven...Quoting you---"""I said I would take the lower ERA pitcher (though would look at many other stats) for the future because wins alone is a poor predictive stat."""
Sorry Steven, that is your problem, because wins is the very best definition of talent. I do not think that is twisting your words. Seems cut and dry to me.

Victor Bruno said...

Steven, I do not think we are angry, just frustrated with stat frauds and their meaningless stats.
By the way that pipeline is filled primarily by WIN METHOD.

bigbadwolf said...

Just to set the record straight before Steven whines about WIN METHOD draft selections. Lets say for arguments sake WIN METHOD talks with 400 prospects, selects 20, that is 5%. There is no way the Yankees can draft all 20, but may only get 2,3, possibly 4. The way to get others is via trade route like this past summer, or even trade route after a kid may make the majors. That means a player may be WIN METHOD for the Yankees and not drafted by them.

Steven said...

People can have different opinions victor, you have to have some tolerance to accept that. The prospects are the work of the entire organization, give some credit to the scouts and advisors.

Steven said...

Haha anything I disagree with is whining. You're intolerable man. God forbid some one challenges the way you think right?

will-i-am said...

There can be tons of different opinions, but the one irrefutable fact always rules, wins determines the best teams and players. Individual stats do not. There is no tolerance for people who do not think wins defines the best and losing does.

yankeeclipper21 said...

Winners win, stat frauds lose. Ba da bing, ba da boom.

David Stern said...

yankeeclipper21, stat frauds win in their fantasy games. But then again most of them lose there also because they all use different combinations of meaningless stats.

Izy Hernandez said...

To clarify for Steven. In the real world the players and teams that WIN, go to the playoffs, and if they continue to WIN they advance through the playoffs, and if they continue to WIN they may even WIN the World Series. How unique.

candycane said...

No, no, no Izy, the guys with the best individual stats are the best players. They just happen to play with players on their team who are no good and the blame for everything.

bigbadwolf said...

You have to admit Steven is a good sport. He keeps coming back for more.

Deb F said...

wolfie, and we don't ban anyone. Nothing could be fairer. We have nothing to hide. that is why WIN METHOD fans get banned from stat fraud forums, they have everything to hide and when challenged with common sense and logic, they ban you opinion.

Domenic said...

Deb F.....all so true. Been there, done that. Banned for saying winning is more important than stat.

Steven said...

I am a good sport that likes a little debate. You wolfie are not, and a sore loser.

bigbadwolf said...

Steven, Now you are really grasping at something that is not there.

Jimmy Thames said...

Someone can't take a compliment. Sounds like a stat fraud to me.

Ben Rosen/Israel said...

Slowly but surely the Yankees will bloom and grow.

Guy Padikian said...

Two weeks and one day and the hills will be alive with baseball from sea to shining sea.

Artie S said...

Never take a stat fraud seriously. When wins and winning are not considered the most important aspect of baseball and not considered defining who is best, you are talking with a stat fraud.

Cory said...

Here is a post on a Yankee baseball talk forum by an ignorant stat fraud.

"Please no. Please let Hicks retire or something. One at bat for him is too many. He could very well be the worst baseball player I've ever seen in the major leagues."

It may very well be that stat frauds try to top each other in their ignorance.

Norm Jackson said...

Cory, that is ignorant even for an ignorant stat fraud.

YankeeMike said...

Kaprielian says he wants to be an 'ace'. Very admirable WIN METHOD type goal. In case a stat fraud reads this, it means he wants to win.

Alex Antonius said...

That is a good attitude. Hope he produces when he counts and reaches his goal.

Gus Papa said...

That kind of attitude can spill over to his teammates. Challenge each other and become the best.

Vinny Ferrero said...

Oh yes, we have a bunch of potential good rotation starters getting ready to bloom and grow.

Linda Pardo said...

We have a whole bouquet of players ready to bloom and grow.

Diane Stahl said...

Finally, baseball is just around the corner. Let the WIN METHOD rule again this season.

Erica Johnston said...

I'd be willing to bet that Sabathia will be a great mentor to the young pitchers. Particularly regarding all he went through, personally, physically, the stardom he attained, the fall he went through, the comeback, reinventing himself, and attitude. CC has experienced a lot and his still chugging away.

Teena/Bronx said...

Erica Johnston...Very good points. That would be great for the youngsters and wouldn't it be super if a couple of the youngsters could explode on the scene and CC himself have a solid year and the team go to the playoffs and beyond.

Erica Johnston said...

Teena/Bronx, Thank you.

Todd Griffin said...

Lets go Yankees. Yes we can and yes we will.

Gordie Howell said...

Young pitchers, Cessa, Green, Adams, Kaprielian, Montgomery, Mitchell, Enns, etal. How sweet it is.

Stanley Chin said...

Severino aka Louie Louie.

reinvaldez said...

We are loaded. Now it is up to each player to earn a spot.

Yanks23245 said...

Two weeks from today and our pitchers and catchers report to camp. In shape and ready to produce I hope.

Mark Wagoner said...

yep, just two weeks and the sports world comes alive. Baseball and the Yankees are back in action.

Oscar Hron said...

And the battle for rotation spots begins in earnest.

Linda Rice said...

I lean to however wins the positions with their performance.

Phil Jenkins said...

Then there are Green, Cessa, Louie Louie, Montgomery, and Mitchell with some major league experience.

Andy K said...

Cessa did a pretty good job last season when given the chance, he may have an edge. But, I agree, performance should earn the job.

Wilsonsway said...

I can see everyone getting a chance sometime as the season progresses unless someone just excels and doesn't need to be replaced.

Tommy Lee said...

As each day passes, the Yankees are getting closer to be great again.

Billy Tedder said...

Just as long the guys don't go overboard and hurt themselves trying to impress.

Steve said...

The team can only move forward if all the guys who make the roster and the others who get promoted to the roster play together to earn WINS. WINS and only WINS will decide how great they may be.

Patricia Piper said...

Steve, that is so true. There is nothing else that matters as much as WINS.

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