The YANKEES have reached the end of their fantastic 2017 season. And a great season it was, accomplishing more than any pundits and most fans expected. But not here at the WIN METHOD, where it was stated the YANKEES would make the playoffs and beyond, and where likely every WIN METHOD fan believed would happen. The YANKEES not only reached the playoffs, but they won the wild card game against the Minnesota Twins to advance to the American League Division Series (ALDS). In the ALDS the YANKEES had the Cleveland Indians waiting for them to play a best of five game series. The Indians won 102 games during the season and were looking to go back to the World Series where they lost in seven games last season. The Indians won the first two games and the YANKEES had their backs to the wall. You WIN METHOD fans, the smartest most intelligent baseball fans never gave up, you rooted your team on, never gave up, and the YANKEES themselves never game up as they went on to defeat the Indians in the next three games. An amazing comeback for the YANKEES. By winning the ALDS the YANKEES moved on to the American League Championship Series (ALCS) where they had the Houston Astros waiting for them. Houston won 101 games over the season and are a young developing great team. The ALCS is a best of seven game series and the winner goes to the World Series and the losing team ends their season. The Astros won the first two games of the series and the YANKEES again had their backs to the wall. The YANKEES never gave up and neither did you WIN METHOD fans. The YANKEES came back to win the next three games of the series. The YANKEES just needed to win one of the next two games in Houston to go to the World Series. The Astros had other thoughts in mend and they also never gave up and the Astros came back to win the two games in Houston and move on to the World Series. The YANKEE season was over. But the blooming and growing was just beginning. The 2017 YANKEES achieved more than the baseball world expected. The WIN METHOD fans were not surprised, WIN METHOD fans being the most intelligent and knowledgeable in baseball were well aware of what their YANKEE team could achieve as the youngsters started to bloom and grow.
Congratulations to the YANKEE players, coaches, management, front office, and ownership for allowing the YANKEE team to bloom and grow.
The off season has arrived for the YANKEES. Time to kick back, rest, relax, and do the things you want to do and the things that you don't have time to do during the season. Enjoy guys, you made you proud and your run is just beginning. During the off season the YANKEE front office will have many decisions to make regarding player personnel. No question the roster for 2018 will change, some new players will come and some will go. The YANKEES are in a position of great power having the best minor league system in baseball and many many players blooming and growing trying to make the 2018 roster and challenge veteran players. The front office has work to do, hard decisions to make, and make them they will.
On a side note, you the WIN METHOD fans, fans from all over the world have made it possible for the WIN METHOD blog, the greatest Yankee and baseball blog/forum in the world to surpass a quarter of a billion views. Thank you fans for your devotion and passion, for being smartest baseball fans that exist, and for standing up against stat frauds and their misguided fools view of baseball. This blog will continue without advertisements and clutter that fills every other site you may visit. I know, you visit them for laughs.
Have fun everyone in the off season. I will go out and find a few more WIN METHOD players to bloom and grow down the road. Spring training 2018 is going to be a lot of fun as the kids make their push for the majors, the brightest lights and the biggest stage in baseball, the New York YANKEES. Yes they can, and they will. Lets go Yankees.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 400 of 1424 Newer› Newest»Talking about stat frauds is fun. They make good fodder for the off season.
I despise stat frauds who say their best player doesn't win because of the players on his team, but ne is the best.
Tommy Lee, You are correct. One player does not win or lose. All players through their combined efforts determine wins and losses for a team. Any player can play out his option and go to any other team who will have him if he feels he is so good and can win with another team.
Reading all these fine posts about stat frauds it got me to thinking about all the posters here who have been banned from forums for stating their opinions. Some posters from multiple forums. They all were banned by moderators at these forums. Moderators are stat frauds who have attained the highest level and degree of ignorance and stupidity.
What a great post yankeeclipper. Humor and truth.
Cory......So if a team had five starters all 9-13 and each had a 2.0 WAR. The team starters would be 45-65 with a 10.0 WAR. That sounds like the stat fraud world.
There is such a world of difference between stat frauds and WIN METHOD followers. stat frauds believe in made up formulas, winning is not as important as convoluted stats, and it is not important to win to be the best. WIN METHOD fans believe in real long standing statistics, winning is why the games are played and is the most important thing.
It appears to me that all the posters here have very succinctly shown how bad stat fraud stats are (not the standard factual stats) but man made value stats that are convoluted and proven them false and thus useless in real life.
After reading all this I just hope out new manager is not a stat fraud.
I would think that when a manager needs to make a decision for a possible pinch hitter in a game, stats largely go out the window, it would more likely boil down to a lefty/righty decision, who may be hot, and if you need a long ball or a single.
Likely the same with a lineup to start a game. Who have your basic starters. The manager knows who may have a slight ailment or who may need a hay off. Who is on a hot streak, who is in a slump.
Someone posted earlier and I agree, Cashman has made a major blunder by letting Girardi go. T
As fans we will have to wait to see who the new manager will be. Hoping for someone acceptable to WIN METHOD fans.
I wonder if Cashman thinks he can do better. I am not a fan of Cashmans decision to let Girardi go.
It has been reported that Cashman said he would be happy if he can find another manager as good as Girardi..say what?
God help us.
So Cashman is looking for someone as good as Girardi. Good luck Brian.
This entire manager fiasco does not look good.
What is so complicated about all this. You have an organization manager with experience and knows many of the players at little cost in Al Predique. Just common sense.
Cashman back to manager interviews today.
Sharon/NC...I agree, no stat fraud manager.
Judge wins rookie of year.
Judge deserved it. A fine season helping his team to the playoffs and missing getting to the World Series by one game.
I believe it is very possible the Yankees know who they are going to name as manager. Every team that was in need of a new manager has already signed their man. The Yankees knowing they have their man and their man was not on the radar of any of the other teams can just play their due diligence game. Lets see who they name.
Warren....Could that mean it will be someone in the organization like Al Predique????
Pete H, I like Predique. I hope it is him.
The Yankee management knows more than any of us do. We have to trust they are doing the best to help the team win. Sometimes it doesn't always seem that way, but we just have to let them do their job. We will find out one way or the other if things turn out right.
The decision of the front office and if it was good or not can only be defined by how the team performs on the field in 2018. The tools are in place and Girardi used them to get to one game from the WS before being eliminated after the 175th game.
Lets get back to stat frauds and their fantasy world games and the fantasy world they live in.
How about this. You can be at a MLB game, any teams, any day. And for example you can actually see a fielder make a great play that you think is unbelievable, but the stat frauds with their made up zone ratings and formulas will try to convince you the play you just witnessed wasn't great, but just average.
Happy Thanksgiving. Lets go Yankees. Off to grandmas.
Happy Thanksgiving to you to johnny and all WIN METHOD fans. johnny, I think you are 10 years old now, right?
Any time people have to make up nuanced formulas with man created values to get a result, it is factually correct that the result was manipulated and therefore false. That is why these people are called stat frauds.
bigbadwolf...thank you, I am 10. I will be 11 in january.
Happy Thanksgiving to all.
If you use common sense and logic, talk up wins and winning with a stat fraud, you will win every discussion.
Pierre Jadot, if you do what you said on one of their forums, they just ban you. They can't handle common sense and they can't win a debate. Their way to deal with that is ban you.
Today, I went to the beachfront with my children. I found a
sea shell and gave it to my 4 year old daughter and said "You can hear the ocean if you put this to your ear." She put the shell to her ear
and screamed. There was a hermit crab inside and it
pinched her ear. She never wants to go back!
LoL I know this is totally off topic but I had to tell someone!
I am never ceased to be amazed how stat frauds continue to try to pass off certain players as the best and these players consistently fail to get their team into the playoffs. Then the frauds blame the guys teammates.
Cashman doing more interviews. Talk is cheap.
Just hope we haven't dug ourselves into a hole.
Have to keep thinking positive and see more youngsters bloom and grow.
Boston/Yankee....No question WIN METHOD has set up this Yankee team for quite a few years.
2018 is going to be a great season if we get a manager who doesn't screw it up.
Happy Thanksgiving WIN METHOD fans.
We all win some and lose some, Cashman lost one when he let Girardi go.
I tend to be on the side of a Cashman error when it mattered.
Will just root for the team to win next season and support whoever the manager is.
Happy Thanksgiving folks. As Yankee and WIN METHOD fans we have much to be thankful for.
Meulens is getting a lot of consideration and he is a Yankee.
The Yankees have traded Nick Rumbelow for two Seattle Mariner minor leaguers.
I love this blog. I love the content, no ads, no selling, on popups, no garbage, yes, just great content that is real and honest.
By trading Rumbelow that opened up a 40 man roster spot.
Addition thru subtraction.
Two things get settled today. The 40 man rosters and whether or not Ohtani gets posted.
Word from Japan is there may be an extension on the time for posting Ohtani.
Winter meeting right around the corner. Player movement likely, but who and for whom.
No real defining news from Japan yet.
Just in, Japan posting extended 24 hours.
Lets see what happens with the Ohtani posting today.
From all this Ohtani/Japan stuff I have come to the conclusion that the MLB players union is a dirtbag, corrupt, ineffectual organization run by the bottom of the barrel type people.
The baseball players union has done far too much to make baseball games very expensive to attend.
From the way I understand the Ohtani scenario is, as of now any team that puts up 20 Mil posting fee earns the right to negotiate with him. I think there is a 21 day window for him to sign. I think he will sign with whomever he wishes. If he is WIN METHOD, he signs with the Yankees.
You never know what is in the mind or drives a player to make a decision. If anyone knows I bet it is WIN METHOD.
Happy Thanksgiving.
Mike Smith, I agree.
It appears Othani will be a Yankee. Common sense folks, common sense.
Happy Thanksgiving.
Bird is in the oven, Enjoy the day people. Happy Thanksgiving.
Happy Thanksgiving Ohtani. Welcome to the Yankees.
The issue with Ohtani may be his desire to hit and pitch. That could cause a problem for a team that is on the brink of being the best. If a player is perceived as getting special accommodations it could cause tensions.
Happy Thanksgiving. Baseball is coming fast. Be Thankful.
Happy Thanksgiving to all my friends here at WIN METHOD.
Likewise Cory and to all. Happy Thanksgiving.
Happy Thanksgiving.
Happy Thanksgiving.
On to Christmas, a new manager, and Ohtani.
Hopefully in reverse order.
I wonder if we will have a manager before the winter meetings?
Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving.
Nathan Riley, I wouldn't bet on it. I just hope it is someone good.
Getting Ohtani for the Yankees is a good thing. If he is a bust, which I doubt, he doesn't cost a fortune. If he is adequate and makes the rotation as a starter that is good. If he is adequate as a hitter that is good. If he excels at pitching and or hitting that is a goldmine. He can make the team better and make other assets expendable to help fill a need we may need in the future.
I'll be back in the states in 2018 and will be looking forward to some live Yankee games.
Jackson, thank you for your service.
We want a manager. Sign Girardi.
Saul Irving, Sad, but Joe is gone.
Just a few more days and it will be December. Things are going to start happening.
You can choose them if you want.
Whoever takes Yankee manager reins could very well find himself in a no win situation created by Cashman.
Nothing has happened anywhere in baseball so far.
Everyone is shopping.
Yankeeforever...Likely because the stat frauds are trying to figure out why their high individual stat players keep losing.
And in the mean time all the fans here at WIN METHOD know who the best players are. And we don't need convoluted fake and phony made up stats created by fans who don't know baseball.
All I can say is lets go Yankees.
Ohtani is giving me the impression that he thinks he is special and should be catered to.
We will find out one way or another. We will find out if he helps whatever team he signs with.
Jill Byrnes....Ohtani is asking all teams interested and willing to pay for his services to fill out a detailed questionnaire on why he should sign with them. I thought the employer was supposed to ask the questions on why they should hire an employee.
The issue that I look at is Ohtani is still a relatively unknown quantity. A team still has to pay 20 million to the Japanese team. Yes, that can be very little if Ohtani is what many think he may turn out to be. But, but, if, and but.
If Ohtani can really hit and produce when it counts, his being a left handed bat would play well for the Yankees. Everything with him is always a big if.
The Yankees brought baseball to Japan decades ago. The Yankees are the goal for Japanese players. Only a fool would play for another team with the dollars being equal.
sid greenberg,nyc>>>>>Are you suggesting that Ohtani would be a fool if he does not sigh with the Yankees?
For the dollars needed to get Ohtani which in essence the same for every team, you might as well sign him. If he is nothing, it is no great loss, if he is something, you got a bargain.
Rahm Mahoud, Yes.
Thanksgiving is over, things are going to start happening over the next 2 or 3 weeks.
For the Yankees in the coming weeks, a yes or no from Ohtani, a manager, and maybe a small trade.
There may have been seasons in the past when a player was wise for not wanting to sign with the Yankees. However, when the Yankees are on their good runs, a player would be either a fool or a player who is afraid of the bright lights and big stage. We will find out about Ohtani soon.
I wonder just how much WIN METHOD Ohtani may be. He seems more concerned with himself than being a good team player and wanting to help a team be the best they can be.
coryankee, Good points. Ohtani will have much to prove.
Ohtani had very few innings in 2017. I think he would be hard pressed to get to 150 in 2018.
NJYANKEE, Ontani had 25 in 2017 but threw between 140 and 160 the prior three seasons. I guess getting back to 150 would be pushing a little.
The stove is starting to warm up.
I wouldn't be surprised if Cashman is finding it very difficult trying to find a manager to replace Joe Girardi who is one of the best managers in baseball.
Cashman can find a manager with no problem, but he can't find one as good as Girardi.
I am of the opinion that Othani may be one heck of a giant bust in MLB.
John Hartnett >>>>> Bingo.
Quay Ho >>>>> Why?
yankeeclipper, just a gut feeling. I really don't think he has proven anything yet.
Cashman still do interviews.
Ohtani can't be that stupid that he would not want to play for the Yankees.
If he is WIN METHOD, it is a slam dunk he signs with Yankees.
I am most interested in our own young talent that is on the cusp of making their ML debuts next season.
I tend to agree Ursala. We have so many youngsters ready to bloom and grow there may be no reason to grovel for Ohtani.
Ursala/Lou.....Getting Ohtani is an investment that does not cost a fortune. If he produces under competition that is a plus for the team. If he doesn't, chuck him as you would do with any other player. The only way Ohtani blocks another player is by being better than him and that happens all the time.
Yankeeforever..Competition is good and raises everyone's level. It also eliminates those who can't stand the heat.
So I guess we get Ohtani and see how he turns out. He may need to make it as a pitcher because we do have many hitters now and coming.
Hey, December is a day away. Less than three months to spring camps open.
And three and a half weeks to Christmas. MERRY CHRISTMAS
Just to keep things in perspective, stat frauds are ignorant and their use of WAR when evaluating players is the only thing that challenges their ignorance.
WAR is garbage cited by garbage.
During the entire existence of the WIN METHOD, it has never not recognized the best players and teams in baseball each season. The WIN METHOD has never been wrong.
Hear hear, only wins and winning determine the best.
Hi WIN METHOD. Love ya,
Jeter may be on the cusp of a deal for Stanton with the SF Giants and the Marlins may make out like a bandit. Jeter knows baseball and is a winner.
Would love to see Jeter with Cashmans job.
Ohtani to be posted tomorrow or the next day.
Neil Golub, that ship has sailed with Jeter financial interest in Marlins.
Doug Schoen, I sadly agree. However, look for the Marlins to improve.
I would love to see the Yankee presentation regarding Ohtani.
Lets go Yankees.
If sabermetric stats are so good (which they are not) why do we bother playing the games. Just throw the numbers in a computer and announce who won each game. Sabermetrics are for those who are unable to think and plan and therefore perfect for the ignorant fans.
Cashman rappelling down side of 23 story building in Stamford CT. this morning. He does this each year for charity.
Cashman has said Yankee managerial interviews are over and one of Rob Thomson, Hensley Meulens, Eric Wedge, Chris Woodward, Aaron Boone or Carlos Beltran will be the Yankees new skipper.
Lets see what happens in 2018.
I'd still rather have Girardi.
That is one step forward.
Aaron Boone to be Yankee manager.
I guess you are WIN METHOD when you hit a walk off game seven winning home run to earn a pennant. Good luck Aaron Boone.
Yankeeclipper
That comment leads me to believe that you don’t understand sabremetrics at all. Did you find it strange that one of cashmans criteria for a new manager was to embrace advanced statistics (I.e. sabremetrics). Are you saying cashman and now Boone cannot think or plan?
Aaron Boone comes from a family of MLB players. He knows baseball and knows what it takes to win. And it isn't analytical stats.
Steven, I think yankeeclipper hit the nail on the head. A great manager manages each game guided by the flow of each game, how players are performing and who you think will get the job done when it needs to be done. I am sure some of the big time losing managers may manage by the numbers, but if you want something great you paint with your mind and feel and not by the numbers. There are no great paintings in museums that were painted by the numbers, they are all painted from the heart. Don't believe everything you hear from Cashman, he likes to make you think one way while he is doing something else. You stat frauds are so gullible and foolish.
What stat frauds don't want to accept is this fact. It has been used by computer programmers for ever, "garbage in garbage out". Most of sabermetric formulas are garbage, therefore when you use them you get garbage.
Cor
That was rather long winded, irrelevant analogy. You even found a way to act pompousn at the end.
Numerous news outlets have reported that cashman was seeking a manager well versed in modern analytics, in addition to be able to communicate well with the players. Additionally if you’ve ever listened to him during his broadcasting career, you’d know that he’s well versed and finds use in them as well.
Keep in mind I’m not advocating their use here, but what leads you to believe cashman and Boone do not use them significantly despite the evidence showing they do? I don’t see any competitive advantage to them lying about it.
Steven, I do not think my response to you was either long winded nor irrelevant but more factual than you would like.
You cite numerous outlets and what they have reported. Lets go back to the start of last season, how many outlets, talking heads, etc predicted the Yankees would be in a rebuilding year, had no chance of making the playoffs, and so on? See if you can find any blog, baseball forum, pundit, etc who said the Yankees would reach the playoffs and beyond last season. There is one, the WIN METHOD blog. WIN METHOD and the posters here were right because we don't use meaningless crap analytical sabermetrics. Many here know analytics well, and realize that modern analytics are useless garbage with man made values creating formulas that can be adjusted to meet the desired outcome of the fools who create them. I do know that WIN METHOD doesn't use them, and WIN METHOD has been the pipeline of the Yankees when he dealt with George Steinbrenner and not with Hal Steinbrenner. The WIN METHOD pipeline since its inception has led to more wins, more pennants, and more World Series than any other team in baseball. I wouldn't be a bit surprised that the smart people that use sabermetrics use them in reverse by finding the great WIN METHOD player who is put down by sabermetrics yet will help his team win games and thus be an asset who costs far less salary. The competitive edge is playing the the people who live by sabermetrics for fools.
WIN METHOD and the fans here predicted the Yankee success for the 2017 season, no one else I know did. There may be someone else out there, maybe.
Steven, I am not saying Cashman and Boone do not know how to plan. You need to plan a budget, when running your life, your business, etc. To help a team win and be successful consistently you use the WIN METHOD.
I’m sorry Cor but you’re not answering my question...a common dodge strategy of many of the posters here.
Why do you think Brian Cashman and Aaron Boone do not heavily use advanced statistics despite all evidence pointing otherwise? Isn’t the employment of defensive shifts, of which the Yankees employ heavily, an indicator that they are using some advanced statistics? If they are using them, how then are they useless?
I’m not looking for a book, but rather a concise and direct answer to my specific question. Thank you.
Steven, I for one will be patiently awaiting you being able to find people other than the fans here that said the Yankees would reach the playoffs and beyond last season. You post opinions that are culled from what people say but not what people do. The best players help their team to wins, the playoffs and pennants, no matter what their individual stats may be. As a fact, some of the highest individual stat players hurt their teams and many don't even get their teams to the playoffs.
Gil,
Not for nothing but we post every year that we believe the Yankees will reach the playoffs, which is why we’re so positive, but we have been wrong the majority of the past five years. We shouldn’t hang our hat on the Yankees success of last season without acknowledging that we’ve been wrong quite often recently.
Steven, you are the one who evades questions. Find us reporters, forums, blogs, etc who said the Yankees would have as good a season last season other than this one.
I think you are confused when you say people use sabermetrics. It is how they are used that are important. The smart people use sabermetrics to take advantage of other by obtaining WIN METHOD type players for less cost.
Heeeeeeeeeeeeeee's back.
Tony
I’m not evading that question. I think most people didn’t expect the Yankees to make the playoffs and do as well as they did last year. I thought there would be more growing pains with the younger players and was surprised (and excited) to see how well they did so quickly. I think this is how most felt.
Now that I’ve answered your question, will you answer mine.
P.S - deb, why are you always the worst. All you do I make disparingy remarks and never contribute anything meaningful to a conversation.
Yankeefan4life, You err. This blog has not posted the Yankees will reach the playoffs every season. Yes, most of the time, and most of the time they do. However as a fact, WIN METHOD did not say the Yankees would make the playoffs in 2015 and 2016.
Jill Byrnes >>>> You are correct, and to add WIN METHOD did say the Yankees would make the playoffs and beyond for this 2017 season.
Steven, and most people were wrong, and WIN METHOD was right on hitting the nail on the head.
I might add most people are also wrong about how good sabermetrics are.
Tony Manchu, but not WIN METHOD and WIN METHOD fans. We know that man made convoluted numbers are fools gold.
Ted Williams always said about stats, every time I go to bat in every game I step into the batting box with a .000 average. I either leave batting 1.000 or .000.
Steven, you mentioned defensive shifts and their use, even by the Yankees. If managers and sabermetrics are so brilliant why doesn't the manager on offense just have his guys bunt or ground the ball the opposite way? That would be the ultimate use of sabremetrics.
Carl Hooks...because analytical stats are garbage. The only reason to try to go the opposite way is to put men on base and that is stupid according to the analytics.
I get the impression Steven believes the people who said the Yankees would not make the playoffs last season are knowledgeable the people who said the Yankees would make the playoffs and beyond last season are not. My Lord. Analytics must be with great skepticism.
Facts kill. Lets take Stevens view as fact. All teams use modern analytical sabremetrics. 2/3 of those teams fail to make the playoffs. Not good.
Only one team uses the WIN METHOD, and since using the WIN METHOD, that team has had the best win/loss record in baseball, has been in the playoffs the most, has won the most pennants and has won the most World Series.
That would make the WIN METHOD heads and shoulders over modern analytical sabremetrics. FACT.
Um ok, I literally asked one question (still unanswered), you guys are really going off the rails though. My view was simply that Cashman and Boone embrace modern statistics. No one has provided support to the contrary...
Steven, I don't think anyone with any real intelligence and baseball acumen embraces 'modern statistics'. I think they use them, but not in the way you seem to think they do.
Remember the old public service announcement, "just say no to drugs". "Just say no to drugs", why, because they can kill you. The same can be said for modern analytics with fake formulas, "just say no to modern analytics". Why, because they make you stupid. Look at Steven.
Several years ago I took the plunge and participated in a fantasy league. It was an entire season league and you could make trades and deals. It was all based on sabermetrics. I took the lowest ranked player at every position, spent the lowest amount of money for my players, and never make a trade all season. I finished third in the league. Conclusion, sabermetrics are utter trash.
Yankeefan4life > Jill Byrnes accurately refuted your opinion proving it false regarding this blog always posting the expectation of the Yankees making the playoffs each season.
Just in general, there nothing wrong with posters expressing opinions and views. However, posting something you think is fact just because that is what you want to believe subjects you to being called out by other posters.
For example, when stat frauds come here they like to make claims and pass them out as factual.
That is why they get called stat frauds. Another example, if you claim a player has hit the most home runs in 2017 and he has, that is a fact. When you claim the player is the best and he doesn't get his team into the playoffs, that is you view and not a fact.
Johnsondc
Thanks for letting us know when we’re allowed to be disparaging. Noted.
I believe what I was saying was that based on all available data it seems as though high ranking members of the organization seem to embrace the advance statistics rather than dispel them as useless. I was seeking evidence in contrast as to what I’ve seen.
Now I’ll leave you to throwing around insults and not providing any substantial evidence or information to have an adult conversation about a subject. Have fun!
It looks like Steven took johnsondcs' comment personally. Only stat frauds embrace advanced metrics. Others use them to their advantage to obtain the better talent for lower cost because advanced metrics give flawed results. False results mean useless for real value. WAR is utter garbage and in no way gives any players plus or minus value to a team.
When any posters make a false claim, they should be called on it. Opinions are a different story. Everyone can state their opinion and then accept, agreement, disagreement, etc.
I think stat frauds hate the WIN METHOD because the WIN METHOD always determines the best players and the best teams. And does it without fake formulas and made up stats.
I think Aaron Boone growing up in a baseball family and particularly from grandpa Ray knows about what it takes to win and knows that player performance when it counts will determine who wins most often. Just needs to be WIN METHOD.
Teena/Bronx, I like your post and it makes very good sense. Lets go Yankees.
I wonder if Cashman used analytical sabremetrics when he signed Chris Carter last year and Girardi had to play him for half the season. That Cashman boondoggle probably cost the Yankees a few losses.
Eddie OConnor, The stat fraud Steven must have the know. He claims Cashman loves analytical stats, so that must be the answer to the Carter failure for half the season.
OK, we got our manager. Now do we get Othani or do we even care?
Deb F
I feel like you have a problem with me missy. Feel free to speak to me directly instead of gossiping.
Steven, no problem with you, just stat frauds in general. So I'll ask you, did Cashman rely on analytical stats to sign Chris Carter because you know darn well WIN METHOD would not have recommended it?
A modern stats analytical question for everyone. I'll pose three scenarios, with everything else being equal (inning, score, etc,) which one is best for his team?
1. Player hits 3 run home run. Exit velocity 115 MPH. Landing distance 465 feet.
2. Player hits 3 run home run. Exit velocity 102 MPH. Landing distance 395 feet.
3. Player hits 3 run home run. Exit velocity 92 MPH. Landing distance 330 feet.
4. All of 1,2,3 are equal.
I'll go with 4, but I'm a big WIN METHOD supporter.
Now that is a stat fraud question if I ever heard one.
1, no I'll go with 4. roflol.
The answer is obvious. It has to be 4, and that emphasizes the fact that modern analytical stats are meaningless. They may be fun for fans and give something to talk about, but to outcomes of games they are meaningless.
Guy Padikian, obvious to WIN METHOD fans, not so much to stat frauds.
4
4 and in my opinion, anyone, anyone who says other is an idiot.
Going back to Ohtani, if only a small bit of the demands attributed to him and his representatives are true, I want no part of this prima donna. Let him find a babysitter to coddle him and acquiesce to his every need.
The Yankee clubhouse doesn't need all the distraction and circus like atmosphere from all the hype, that can easily turn out to be detrimental. We have some very good bloom and grow WIN METHOD players now and coming.
Jimmy....So true we do not need a disruption by catering to any player. That would be a bad example for the youngsters. But we do not know Othani and only get hearsay.
I go with choice 4.
I second Jeb Houghs post.
IF the Yankees get Othani and he becomes an issue it would then be incumbent that Hal, Cashman, and Boone meet with him and lay down the law. They could always trade him to the Marlins.
YankeeMike ... That would be golden. Trading him for 2 or 3 guys and also getting the other team to pay you the 20 million plus dollars it cost to obtain him. Throw in getting the other teams first round draft pick for a couple of years.
Guys, you do think outside the box. Like it.
Deb
I can’t really speak for Cashman, but I think he was just looking for veteran depth since Bird was coming off the shoulder injury.
No one was a huge fan of the signing at the time. How are you certain that winmethod wouldn’t have recommended it? Ultimately it didn’t work out but winmethods selection process isn’t going to be 100% perfect.
Steven... Cashman didn't need to look for veteran help. He had players in the system that could have done better than Carter even if they stank. My point was more towards how anyone using advanced metrics could come up with Chris Carter. I don't know if WIN METHOD would have liked Carter, but I doubt it. We usually get a pretty good idea here if WIN METHOD likes someone or not.
How did you vote to jimbos question?
Four jimbo four.
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