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Saturday, August 6, 2016

WIN METHOD --- FINAL 2016 RUN -- UPDATES - LOOKING BACK

This post is going to have quite a bit of news in it.  We will look back at several revelations, the draft, the up and coming stars, the future.  This is going to be a pretty long post, fans.

First off, I think it would be a good thing for most of you to go back to the beginning and reread all the blog posts.  I think reading the WIN METHOD  blog from the beginning is a must for any and all new comers here.  It will give you a great perspective on the WIN METHOD and just how great it is.

Now here is a post I made ten years ago on a YANKEE thread in a baseball talk forum.  Of course I got bounced from that forum, one of so many.  Bounced by people who cannot accept challenge to their foul, corrupt, misleading, and false stats.  Trying to get the WIN METHOD philosophy out was a challenge when having to deal with so many very ignorant people.  However I found many people at all the forums who wanted something more about baseball than just bad statistics.  Why didn't the players with great individual stats help lead their team to wins.  What was wrong.  I got several suggestions to create a blog about the WIN METHOD.  Create the blog and we will come I was told.
I created the WIN METHOD blog two years after the post I will now insert here, and the WIN METHOD blog was started eight years ago.  Nothing is edited and the following appears here now just as it was posted ten years ago.

""September 2006.
To discuss the WIN METHOD you must put aside your previous beliefs about what determines the qualities of a ‘best player’. The WIN METHOD is used by only one team in baseball. The WIN METHOD is designed to select players who meet the qualifications of the WIN METHOD and the needs at any given time of the team. The purpose of the WIN METHOD is to find players who MUST want to play for the team. They MUST want to win the World Series. And they MUST put individual achievements as secondary goals. The one on one interview process asks many questions, the answers given may then bring forth other questions. The WIN METHOD more than anything, is interested in getting into the psyche of the player. I have interviewed players and they don’t even know why they are being interviewed. These interviews have consistently gotten the best results. It is similar to you being interviewed for a job, only you do not know it. We interview soon to be free agents, sometimes as far as a year or more ahead of their free agency. College prospects are interviewed, prospective minor leaguers, and players in different countries. The inroads made in Japan in the past two years will reap benefits for a long time.

Getting to the nitty gritty. The WIN METHOD nor I make any deals or trades or any signings. The WIN METHOD is an evaluation tool as to whether or not a player will help the team succeed. NOT INDIVIDUAL SUCCESS BUT TEAM SUCCESS. Not every player signed has been a WIN METHOD selection. As you gentleman feel, there are people with the YANKEES who feel the same. Stats, stats, stats. I have gotten many reasons why a player does not want to be a YANKEE. My question right after that gets some fantastic responses. The question I ask is “Tell me why you don’t want to win and be the best.”
Think of the WIN METHOD as a scout giving a report on the players he is scouting. 

The entire idea of believing in the WIN METHOD is a matter of personal psychology. Do you want to believe a player is best because of what he achieves for himself or best for what he achieves for the team. But a team is 25 players. Yes, and when they win they are the best 25 players, be it for a game, a series, a month, a season. Being a baseball fan for over 50+ years, preceding free agency, when players where signed by scouting or acquired by trades, I often wondered why did a player achieve more when he was traded to one team or another as compared to who he was playing for. As time passed I realized players achieved more because they where in situations they preferred and thrived on. Others did worse because they where not in situations they where satisfied with. I started talking to players relatively consistently in the seventies after I met with Mr.S. He helped fund my work.
In the nineties I and the WIN METHOD where ready. Mr.S. and I made a ten year deal, which was just recently renewed for ten more years. Getting back to basics. The WIN METHOD became most feasible with the onset of players being allowed to sign with whomever they wished. The magic words “whomever they wished”. Some poster in a recent thread stated Pedro Martinez would never play for the YANKEES and would rather play on the dirt fields in the Dominican Republic. Fine, then ask yourselves, why on earth would the YANKEES want to sign him? Why would any team want to sign him if he would not be in a situation he was happy with? Getting to our psychological difference in looking at players. The statisticians and the stat fans feel the best players are the ones who attain the gaudiest of individual stats, whatever they may be. And it makes no difference if the player or his team wins. Now the difference, the WIN METHOD people believe that winning is why baseball is played and winning makes for who is best. Right, the TEAM wins. That is the point and the goal of the game. NOT INDIVIDUAL SUCCESS. The team consists of 25 players and the 25 best players win the World Series every year. The WIN METHOD is based on stats also. Just a different way of judging them. ‘A’ hits 50 HRs in 600 ABs. ‘B’ hits 40 HRs in 400 ABs. As stat people, you can see the stats in two perspectives. Who is best. Depends on how you wish to see it. The WIN METHOD sees everything in the terms of WINS. The team wins because of what its players do to help the team win. And the team doesn’t need to have any player in the top of any individual achievement category. It may have a statistical leader, but it doesn’t make a difference either way. The only category the team wants to lead in is WINS. Making the playoffs and moving on through the playoffs. The best players achieve this for the team and therefor themselves. In essence you guys measure a player on his individual stats, the WIN METHOD people measure a player on his ability to allow ateam to WIN. A difference in psychology. Another WIN METHOD issue, is the selection of players who can perform WHEN it counts, in clutch situations, under pressure, under the spotlight. Not everyone can do this, and some fail dismally. It is never how much, but far more important, WHEN you achieve as a player.

I do realize you will belittle, demean, and be unable to accept or comprehend. Have fun. Many do comprehend, accept, live it in their lives filled with success.""


The blog started slowly, and I realized I needed to try to kick  start it a little.  How.  I announced some two major YANKEE signings before anyone in the press and or talking heads knew of them.  On November 15, 2008 I announced that CC Sabathia would soon be a YANKEE.  On December 11, 2008 it was announced officially that CC would become a YANKEE.  Here is a link ==  http://www.espn.com/mlb/news/story?id=3759182.
To make a point that I had the information no one else knew about and did not just make a luck guess, I posted on December 19, 2008 that Mark Teixeira would sign a YANKEE contract.  That one no one expected.  Four days later the YANKEES announce to the world that they had signed Mark Teixeira to an eight year deal.  Here is a link == http://www.espn.com/mlb/news/story?id=3790141.
Many fans started coming to the blog, those who loved winning and wins and the WIN METHOD built the blog to what it is now, the best baseball blog in the world.  Those who did not agree with winning and wins determining the best teams and players (the stat frauds) went their own way to live and play in the fantasy world.   In the past year the WIN METHOD has grown so exponentially I won't bore you with the stats, but just say we are well on our way to one billion views world wide.


In early July the YANKEE management made the decision to trade/deal some chips for young talent that the YANKEES could use.  The YANKEES traded Andrew Miller to the Cleveland Indians for four players.  The piece the WIN METHOD wanted was pitcher Justus Sheffield.  He is now a YANKEE.  Hate to say this, but Clint Frazier is not WIN METHOD, but by no means to the degree of the great baseball fraud Alex Rodriguez aka afraud,  Lets hope the move to the YANKEE will help Frazier mentally and lets hope he will help the team.  I will monitor his progress.
In dealing Aroldis Chapman to the Chicago Cubs the YANKEES got a fine haul of four players and I am particularly happy with the YANKEES reacquiring  my special WIN  METHOD pick from several years back, Adam Warren.   The other three acquisitions will all make an impact on the YANKEES down the road.


Now here is some of the best news I can give you from this Junes draft.  The YANKEES were lucky enough to draft as their number one pick a nineteen year old in Blake Rutherford.  Blake is going to be a very special major league WIN METHOD player in the mold of Derek Jeter, and yes I will say it, maybe better.  Here is information about Blake which is what separates many players. === Before the Yankees came calling, he had a commitment to UCLA since he was a high school freshman out of Simi Valley, California.
"UCLA was a real big thing for me," he said. "It weighed on my mind, but the Yankees were my dream team. To hear them call my name was a dream come true."
Rutherford said he sees himself as a center fielder, though he already has been moved around in the outfield. He also said he expects physical and mental challenges as the grind of a season kicks.
"I'm hanging in there," he said. "The training staff has been great.… The biggest transition is the mental aspect. You have to be mentally strong. I think that's something that kind of separates you." ===  The YANKEES got a gem.  
More good news.  Another pick from a year ago is quickly moving up the minor league levels for the YANKEES and in my opinion will turn into another WIN METHOD gem. Pitcher Chance Adams is going to be very special.  Chance will be a big part of the rotation.
The YANKEES have tons of talent, both in the field and on the mound.  Injuries have slowed too many players to name here, but their time will come and the YANKEES will be a major force to reckon with for many years to come.  The future is oh so bright.  Do not be surprised if things develop well for the minor talent the YANKEES will not have to go crazy in the free agent market with many stars coming out in the next few years.  Maybe there will be a need for one piece if needed.
Yankees down the road with 2016 injuries, Bird, Mitchell, Clarkin, Kapreilian,DeCarr, German, Lindgren, Rumblelow, and others.
Look for Aaron Judge on the YANKEE roster in 2017 with Sanchez, Bird, Refsynder. Louie Louie, and more.

This season isn't over yet, but we learned a lot about many youngsters and they got the time to play everyday in the minors and that can only help to make them better.  I f we do not make the playoffs, sure is is a disappointment, but you have to take the bad and turn it into a positive.

Mark Teixeira has announce he will retire at the end of this season and lets all thank Mark for his time and his contributions during his eight years as a YANKEE which does include a World Series championship.   Mark put up with and played through countless injuries and gave his best all the time.  So long Mark, thank you, and good luck in your future endeavors.
I hope I did not forget anything and I must thank all of the WIN METHOD fans from all over the world who come here everyday and help make this blog the best it can be.   Wins and winning will always determine the best teams and the best players and don't ever let a stat fraud tell you differently.  All the stat frauds have are excuses and they love to blame the other guys.  They say they want to win, but only if it is their fantasy team in the world of make believe. 
LETS GO YANKEES






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Gary Shrieber said...

I would think it should be a fun and exciting World Series with players all of whom have never been in it before, from both teams.

Teena/Bronx said...

I will be pulling for the Indians because I like Andrew Miller.

Yankeeforever said...

If Girardi used Miller the way Francona is using him, the Girardi haters would be persecuting him to no end.

Gil McKenzie said...

It is great for the team that wins, but the drought will continue for the losing team.

Augie DeFonce said...

Agree, this series should be very exciting.

Vladimir Tinzik said...

We don't have to watch, the stat fraud already told us which team is going to win and guaranteed the team whose city starts with a C will win.

Hal Moore said...

IF the Indian pitching can do what they have been doing for one more series, they will win. IF.

Benny Pake said...

World Series Game 1 tonight in Cleveland.

Walt Bellamy said...

I think the Cubs may have the momentum coming back from 2-1 down to win 3 straight over the Dodgers.

Frank Sergi said...

Sadly we are coming to the end of the baseball season, then there is a void in sports.

Raul Vasquez said...

In four months there will be spring training games. Think positive.

Bud Light said...

I'll stick with the superior American League team.

sid greenberg,nyc said...

When I was kid no World Series game was at night. All games were in daylight and the children could watch every one and see their heroes. Not any more. Money has taken over so we can pay some of the lying cheaters overwhelming sums.

Warren Hammond said...

sid, when you were a kid did they even have lights?

sid greenberg,nyc said...

Warren, It was only a matter of about 10 or so years.

jimbo said...

Indians lead 3-0 after 5.

Phil Jenkins said...

Four months ain't so bad a wait. With Thanksgiving and Christmas holidays the next two months time will go fast and then it is just over a month and a half till training camp opens.

will-i-am said...

Indians win game one 6-0. Miller 2 more scoreless innings for the hold and Allen 1 scoreless inning for the save.

Gene A said...

Cubs need a win tonight or they head home winless.

AAA said...

Tonights game is moved up to 7PM because of threat of rain.

Yankeedoodledandy said...

Does anyone realize that three of the Cub starters are from the superior American League. Lackey, Arieta, and Lester.

Yankeeforever said...

Go Indians.

Cal Fuerst said...

Cubs get 1st inning run to lead 1-0.

Hector Lopez said...

From the looks of the first at bats the Indians may be able to get to Arrieta.

Karl R said...

Cubs up 5-0 and Arrieta has not allowed a hit thru five innings.

Walt Bellamy said...

Mu Cubbies are coming back.

NJYANKEE said...

Cubs over Tribe 5-1 to even series.

Domenic said...

Niether game has been a cliff hanger or even close yet. Off day today.

Gloria LeClair said...

Yeah, the games have been pretty boring so far.

Carl Hooks said...

WS resumes tonight in the hell hole city of Chicago. I live in Chicago.

Zack Norris said...

Go Tribe.

Pete H said...

You always want to play from in front. The winner tonight gains the advantage. Just common sense.

Yankeeforever said...

Several Yankee rookies progressing very nicely in the Arizona Fall League. Bloom and grow.

muchomachoman said...

Yankee fans can look forward to a banner 2017 season. The cancer has been cut out.

jimbo said...

We have had a nail biting cliff hanger in todays game. Indians win 1-0.

Tom Loughlin said...

Miller earns the win tonight. Got four out with three Ks.

Alex Antonius said...

Two shutouts from the Indians pitching staff in three games.

Gene A said...

Kluber starting again for Cleveland.

Guy Padikian said...

Indians up 3-1 after 4.

Jill Byrnes said...

Indians 7-2 over hapless Cubbies. Lead series 3-1.

Yankeeforever said...

Miller finally gave up a run. Alas, it was meaningless and came when it did not matter. But it does go against his stats keeping the stat frauds in business.

Boston Yankee said...

Hoping the Tribe wins it tonight.

Brian Cowley said...

Go Indians, get it done. Put the Cub fans and national league fans out of their misery.

Phil Jenkins said...

Cubs win 3-2 to force a game six.

Swen Jorgenson said...

We finally got a couple of close games.

sid greenberg,nyc said...

Last game or two of the season. Everyone gets used to the nth degree.

Norm Jackson said...

Come on Indians.

YankeeMike said...

It looks like both the Cubs and Indians helped themselves for this season with Chapman and Miller.

Ben Rosen/Israel said...

Hopefully the Cubs and Indians helped us more for the future.

johnsondc said...

Down to 1 or 2 games to close out the season and crown the World Series Champion.

Walt Bellamy said...

Lets go Indians.

Frank Sergi said...

Arrieta for the Cubs and Tomlin for the Indians. Baseball at its best.

Victor Grandozi said...

November baseball again.

Robert Mandel said...

Cubs up 7-0 in 4th. Looks like a game seven tomorrow.

YankeeMike said...

Cubs leading 7-2 after 5.

Yankeedoodledandy said...

Cubs up 7-2 after 8. Looks like the WS winner will be the game 7 winner tomorrow.

Ben Rosen/Israel said...

Cubs win 9-3. Deciding game tomorrow.

Vladimir Tinzik said...

After 108 years the Cubs are in the unique position of playing one game to earn the thrill of victory or the agony of defeat.

William Mensom said...

The seventh game of a World Series is the most exciting game in all of sports.

Steve said...

I would think that the seventh game of a World Series has the utmost importance regarding WHEN it matters.

bigbadwolf said...

William Mensom. If the stat frauds would look at every game during the season and compare it to this 7th game of a WS they should be able to see just how meaningless their stats are. Just as you state, it is WHEN that determines the winner.

Walt Bellamy said...

My last chance. Lets go Indians.

Augie DeFonce said...

Watch the game fans, the Series winner will be the team that produces WHEN it matters.

Deb F said...

Hendricks starts for the Cubs and Kluber for the Tribe making his 3rd start for this series.

Stan the Man said...

If Kluber gets 5 or 6 Miller and Allen can get the next 4.

KevMac said...

Lets hope for a good game and Indian win.

Unknown said...

It's funny cause a lot of the "stat frauds" were correct in their predictions of the Cubs being a great team at the beginning of the year and WS favorites.

Everyone here was incorrect about pretty much everything they predicted.

Weird.

Stan the Man said...

Cubs up 5-3 after 5. Kluber couldn't hold the Cubs down.

White Knight said...

Steven Fischer, I am pretty sure no one here ever commented about the Cubs anywhere in any post until the playoffs. Again, you post nonsense.

Unknown said...

Some one did actually way and when, I can look later.

Also, i was referring to you all being wrong in your early season predictions on the Yankees, individual players etc. I wasn't even making the point that people about the Cubs. Be smarter.

NJYANKEE said...

Indians with 3 runs in 8th off of Chapman tie game at 6 after 8.

Gus Papa said...

What a great championship game no matter who wins. Baseball rules.

Victor Grandozi said...

Extra innings. 6-6. Rain delay. WHEN it matters. What a fun game.

Carl Hooks said...

Steven Fischer, I think you are in error. We don't talk to much about any other teams here, particularly the national league. There may very well be one, but that like stats, is meaningless in the big picture.

NJYANKEE said...

Cubs with 2 in 10th win World Series and end their 100+ year drought, 8-7.

bigbadwolf said...

Congratulations to the Chicago Cubs, the 2016 World Series Champions. The best team and the best players in baseball for 2016.

Deb F said...

Despite what some foolish people want you to believe, the best team ALWAYS wins, be it for a game, a series, a month, or a season.
Great job by the Cubs and congrats to the team and their fans. After over a 100 years I guess it was about time.

Rahm Mahood said...

Time to start thinking about 2017.

Bud Light said...

Rahm Mahood, Lets wait until after the New Years Eve celebration ends and then go full bore.

johnny said...

Lets go Yankees.

Linda Pardo said...

Bloom and grow!

Glen Corbett said...

It was nice to see two very different teams play the WS. There is much parity in baseball right now.

Domenic said...

We just need a couple of our young pitchers to make the rotation and perform at the ML level.

Mike Smith said...

Unless something unforetold occurs the Yankees will have Pineda, Tanaka, and Sabathia as starters. In the running for the other two positions you have Green, Cessa, Severino, Mitchell and possibly an arm or two who could surprise.

Jill Byrnes said...

There are so many possibilities and so much opportunity. Hope someone or two step up.

Al Ashton said...

I think Mitchell will be someone to contend with during spring training. He was on the verge of making the roster last spring before he got hurt and lost the season.

Guy Padikian said...

One thing for sure next season, the lineup will be much different than the 2016 season.

sid greenberg,nyc said...

A little more youth, speed, and power. Just need to be WIN METHOD and produce WHEN it matters.

Lori Kelly said...

I hope they work on Betances and his holding runners on and throwing to bases. It is hard to believe anyone who has played baseball all their lives and moved through all the minors to the majors with all the instructors and coaches can't achieve this normal ability.

Gil McKenzie said...

Lori Kelly...It could be a head problem, and that is harder to fix sometimes.

Karl R said...

Maybe they can fix Pineda's head problem at the same time.

Sal Mineo said...

Just let the kids play, create and ride the wave.

Hugh Frazier said...

Oh so many possibilities on the horizon. The opportunities await those who can perform when it counts and lead the way.

Sharon/NC said...

We have the ingredients for something special next year. Just need to find the right recipe.

Zhaire said...

Interesting thoughts and views guys and gals.

White Knight said...

I read these comments and I can't wait for next season.

Vinny Ferrero said...

The key will be the development or acquisition of starting pitchers.

Steve said...

Here is a quote by a stat fraud fool proving their complete ignorance of fact..."""Cash was part of the FO, but he wasn't the architect of the dynasty teams. Stick Michael and Bob Watson were."""...The stat frauds are oblivious to the fact that WIN METHOD passed his findings to the late Mr. George Steinbrenner who then told his minions who to try to sign at any cost.

Warren Hammond said...

The stat frauds only think they know what they read in the papers and hear on espn. They have absolutely no idea what is going on behind the scenes in the real world.

bigbadwolf said...

To illustrate how the stat frauds work, here is a post by one on this blog from a few days ago regarding the Chicago Cubs and WIN METHOD fans...................
"""""It's funny cause a lot of the "stat frauds" were correct in their predictions of the Cubs being a great team at the beginning of the year and WS favorites.

Everyone here was incorrect about pretty much everything they predicted.

Weird."""""
The poster was quickly challenged about his claim """""Everyone here was incorrect about pretty much everything they predicted."""""...........He was told no one here posted about the Cubs and or anything about them and their chance in their league. A player or two of theirs may have been discussed but that was about it. He was asked to back up his claim.

We got nothing, no response whatsoever. Stat frauds make claims, think they are right, live by misleading stats, convoluted worthless formulas, deceit and lies. Completely opposite of the WIN METHOD which is factual and ground in reality.

Jimmy Thames said...

bigbadwold, well said. Hear, hear.

Chad Greene said...

Adam Warren gets a WS ring. Just not with the Yankees. Maybe next year.

Augie DeFonce said...

All the youngsters have to do is deliver when it matters and play for the team to win and they will be able to lead the way to the promised land.

Phil Jenkins said...

It's been said many times in this blog for many years. The stat frauds are afraid to post here because they can't defend their ideas of stats determining the best because of the simple fact that stats do not determine the best players or teams. Wins and winning do.

yankeeclipper21 said...

No question Phil.

Dan Evans said...

Good to see Bird and Kaprielian in the Arizona Fall League. With their season lost in 2016 they could use the work.

RLA said...

Bird will likely be the starting Yankee first baseman and Kaprielian in the minors honing his skills to start 2017.

Unknown said...

Bigbadwolf
Will try to look for it soon. Can't do a control find from my phone.

I didn't realize I had a deadline

Hugh Frazier said...

There is probably no doubt Sanchez is the starting catcher.

Gail Holden said...

It looks as if Judge is still a work in progress. Far too many strikeouts.

candycane said...

I think we can have a banner season in 2017. Bloom and grow.

muchomachoman said...

Warren, Clippard are reasonably solid in pen.

Felix Lopez said...

And who might be the lefty out of the pen?

Patricia Piper said...

1.What will be will be, the future is not ours to see. 2.Don't sweat what you can't control. 3.Smarter minds than us make the decisions, we are just fans.

George W said...

Patricia Piper, so true.

Yankeedoodledandy said...

I hope the Yankees try to fill any and all needs with their own youngsters. Let them play.

Jed Hough said...

I feel Betances is a most important project. To be a lock down closer, which he has the tools to be, he must correct his deficiencies at holding runners and throwing to bases.

John Hartnett said...

There is thoughts in some circles the Yankees may go after Chapman. I wouldn't, mainly because he in no way be worth what he will get paid by any team that obtains his services.

Brian Cowley said...

Lets score enough runs and give the bullpen a break.

Paul Hill said...

John Hartnett, I agree, Chapman will be overbid and overpaid.

WestcoastYankee said...

Jed Hough, Betances will be fine with some concentrated schooling.

Steven F said...

Bigbadwolf:

Here was the mention:
Rham Mahood said...
The Cubs win the 2016 World Series.----------April fools day

Some other winners

Linda Rice said...
remember where you heard this. CC Sabathia 2016 AL comeback player of the year.

Anonymous Stan the Man said...
Look for Louie Louie to push for ace status in 2016

Then there was the constant excuse that Arod was the main problem on this team (we went 25-22 after he left, which btw still isn't a playoff caliber winning %)

I also remember getting in a debate that trading miller and chapman for prospects was dumb and the Yankees shouldn't/wouldn't do it - well it seems like the Yankee organization disagreed.

If you ready back, my overall point (which seemed to go over most of your heads) is that considering how wrong most people in this blog are about every prediction, it's funny how insanely condescending you are.

Cole/NJ said...

WestcoastYankee, hope so, that would make things better.

bigbadwolf said...

Steven Fischer, You have to remember, individuals speak their own opinion. Taking your points one by one.
1. Rahm Mahood was right on target calling for the Cubs to win the WS.
2. Linda Rice feeling that CC would be AL comeback player of the year was not as bad as you seem to make it out to be, since he earned a rotation spot and pitched all year and likely solidifying a spot for 2017.
3. Stan the Man thought of Louie Louie becoming ace of staff was out of the ballpark wrong.
4. The constant opinion from many that afraud was the problem with the team was iron clad right on. Claiming the Yankee record after his departure coincided with the loss of Miller and Chapman. Ane the Yankees still played to a winning record down the pennant run. Solid baseball.
5. The debate about trading Miller and Chapman was just that a debate, with posters siding both ways. As stated in this blog many times by posters, the fans do not have the inside information nor the knowledge, nor the control to make deals.
6. Most people have varying opinions, a cherry trying to cherry pick an opinion or several and you still be wrong as much as may be right makes you look petty.

Eddie OConnor said...

Steven Fischer does a good job taking up space. When I was a kid we referred to those type people as space cadets.

Greg Stone said...

We do need to make the playoffs next season.

Unknown said...

Eddie - grow up.

bigbadwolf - You wrote a long thing about how I was making up a Cub posts, so I was just responding.

And for the record - CC went 9-12, and as you say, that's what we should be judging these guys on at the end of the day.

Cory said...

Just to keep the record straight. WIN METHOD >>>>> stat frauds.

Hal Moore said...

Steven Fischer, no question CC was 9-12 last season and that is a big reason the Yankees did not make the playoffs. BUT, and I hate buts, it was his first full season after his personal issues. i think he will build on that in 2017.

Unknown said...

Yeah but he's also 36 with a degenerative knee condition, I think it's a little unfair to him to expect him to improve. Father Time is undefeated.

WIN METHOD said...

It is being reported that the YANKEES have reached out to Chapman. I don't know if Hal Steinbrenner is pulling a Mr. S. move or not. When Mr. S. decided not to pursue a player he would always feign major interest just to drive up the price paid by whatever team won the price war.

Yankeeforever said...

Surely having Betances and Chapman is a great asset. If I had to have one, I would rather be it Betances because I think he has more endurance and I would trust him to go go three one inning games in a row over Chapman.

Hal Moore said...

Steven Fischer, the knee condition seemed to not be an issue last season. The bigger concern I felt would have been his recovery from alcoholism, which looks like he also overcame. If he can be .500 in 17 as a 5th starter, I could live with that. A winning record would be even better.

Unknown said...

Not an issue? Do you watch the games? He can barely cover first base anymore

Unknown said...

Also for what it's worth, he had to have more knee surgery this winter. I think it's always going to be an issue for
Him

Erica Nuyens said...

Hello WIN METHOD, love ya,

Stan the Man said...

It never hurts to have two shut down closers out of the pen.

Hal Moore said...

Steven Fischer, CC's covering of first was better then the previous season when he could never get there.
The minor knee surgery this post season was scheduled and a normal process from what I know.

Steve said...

If the Yankees really want Chapman, it would lead me to believe that they think the team is looking to the playoffs and more in 17.

Cole/NJ said...

If papa Steinbrenner were alive, if he wanted Chapman, it would be a done deal.

Paul Hirschman said...

Cole/NJ, The good old days.

Victor Grandozi said...

Those were the day my friends, we thought they would never end.

johnsondc said...

I bet WIN METHOD wishes George Steinbrenner was still running the show.

Sharon/NC said...

What a great day.

Oscar Hron said...

Here is a quote from a stat fraud...."""" Statistics are about probability and not picking a winner. The model here was obviously flawed, but the underlying data was bad.""""

If those words do not define just how useless and meaningless stats are, nothing does.

Hugh Frazier said...

Oscar Hron, It's just stat gibberish. AKA Barbara Streisand.

Alex Antonius said...

Sharon/NC, not just a great day, a HUGE great day.

Lori Kelly said...

We can speculate on any and everything, but the people in charge are the only ones that count.

jimbo said...

Lori Kelly, true, but it is fun to talk about possibilities one may think could benefit the tea. You are correct however, what any of us post, make not one iota of a difference.

Brian Cowley said...

No matter what, spring training should be great fun.

Guy Padikian said...

Spring training is just over 3 months out.

Paul Hill said...

The talking heads are throwing around rumors regarding the Yankees. They have nothing else to do.

White Knight said...

Aaron Judge is working with a Yankee minor league batting instructor this off season.

Carl Yukovich said...

Every player, when it is deemed necessary, should get one on one instruction, advice, and guidance.

Wilsonsway said...

Slowly but surely the off season creeps along. We will have winter meetings in Dec.

YankeeMike said...

Hope Judge can be helped and learns to stay away from pitches that are not even close to being strikes.

Gus Papa said...

Gleybar Torres tearing up the Arizona Fall League. 19 years old and on the way to New York.

Yankeedoodledandy said...

Gus Papa, But will the Yankees use him or make him mature in the minors>

Tony Manchu said...

If Torres has a bang bang spring in Tampa, and if there is an open spot the team needs to fill and he is the option, who knows.

Quay Ho said...

There are a whole lot if of if's, and's, and but's going on.

Eddie OConnor said...

It is up to each player to earn their success. That is accomplished by their play on the field when it counts.

Stan the Man said...

Eddie OConnor, Their true success by play on the field when it counts is wins and winning, not individually how much or how many.

johnsondc said...

Here is a quote from Reggie Jackson about Gleyber Torres..........."""""I love his personality and character and presentation as a person," Jackson said. "He's an easy-going guy, confident, respectful. You see good things that you need, just by talking to him, he shows good character. He shows respect for the game and who he's talking to. I sure do like what I see."""""
This is how WIN METHOD finds kids to draft, talking to them.

YankeeMike said...

johnsondc, would explain why the Yankees have been competitive every year with the most playoffs, pennants, and World championships since WIN METHOD took over.

Unknown said...

He wasn't drafted by us, he was also an extremely highly regarded prospect universally not a hidden gem.

Jill Byrnes said...

When you talk to people one on one, you can learn alot.

johnsondc said...

Steven Fischer, you may take the contrarian view many times, but you are not stupid. You must realize if a player is taken before you get a turn at him you are unable to draft him.

Unknown said...

And you must understand that Torres was signed as an international free agent by the Cubs and wasn't drafted :)

We had an equal shot at him from the get go.

johnsondc said...

http://www.baseballamerica.com/international/2013-international-spending-by-team/#LsgxbMufUW15khIb.97

The Yankees had no chance to sign him.

Unknown said...

Ah yes yes, we were capped.

My main point however was that I hesitate to give winmethod
A lot of credit for a guy who was already highly regarded by every scout and team

Frank Sergi said...

Steven Fischer....I do not think that is exactly correct.

Yankeeforever said...

Steven Fischer, the main point is that you were wrong, the Yankees couldn't sign him at the time. Also, there have been, are, and will be many highly rated, touted players adored by the stat fraud community that don't pan out the way they think. And many of those are not WIN METHOD. So, you may think what you like about WIN METHOD, but the proof is in the performance. Second to none.

Unknown said...

You're wound up way too tight yankeeforever.

Yankeeforever said...

Steven Fischer, if being wound up too tight is posting reality, then us I am wound up too tight.

Unknown said...

Oh, no that isn't what that means.

Karl R said...

I think johnsondc's post regarding Reggie talking to players was meant that talking to players and finding out about them and their desires, thoughts, character, etc goes the route WIN METHOD uses to find the best players.

Benny Pake said...

Oh, yes, that is what it means.

Domenic said...

Remember fans, the truth hurts, then kills stat frauds.

Dan Evans said...

At 19 year old Torres has the youth and stamina to play hard and learn fast.

William Mensom said...

Stat frauds live in a fantasy world of convoluted formulas and misleading stats, they find it impossible to believe that someone such as WIN METHOD, and I am sure their may be others, are smarter than them and know more about the real world of real baseball.

Unknown said...

Will
Just curious - how do you winmethod is who he says he is or does anything he says he does? Is it blind faith?

This is a serious question, not trying to poke at you.

White Knight said...

William Mensom, hear hear.

Tom Loughlin said...

There are none so blind as those who will not see.

Linda Pardo said...

With afraud and Teixeira gone we are automatically faster on the base paths.

Victor Bruno said...

No matter how it is constructed, next seasons lineup will be younger, faster, and more powerful.

Andrew J said...

And win more?

Tommy Lee said...

Some good news. Gary Sanchez did not win the meaningless ROY award.

Vaughn Wilson said...

Tommy Lee, Exactly, winning games and reaching the playoffs is what matters.

jimbo said...

If you don't win all the stats in the world don't mean a thing.

Sorry, forgot about the stat frauds and their fantasy world games.

White Knight said...

Greg Bird has been progressing slowly in the fall league. It is not so much as proving himself as it is getting healthy and getting his body and surgically repaired shoulder ready for baseball again after a year of inactivity.

Gene A said...

Slow and easy is the best way. No need to rush. Build strength this winter and then continue building game form this spring.

Domenic said...

Gene A, smart thinking.

Eddie OConnor said...

Tommy Lee, I agree, winning games is what matters most. That is unless you play for yourself.

Yankeeforever said...

Winter meetings just 2 1/2 weeks away.

RLA said...

Just don't do anything stupid at the meetings.

Gil McKenzie said...

McCann traded to Houston for two minor league pitchers. Opens up the catching spot for youth movement and gets rid of another slow poke on the base paths.

KevMac said...

With McCann gone it opens up the DH spot for countless possibilities.

Deb F said...

The Yankee outlook for 2017 is just getting better and batter.

Augie DeFonce said...

Slowly but surely another step forward.

Benny Pake said...

Come on baseball season 2017.

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